Koeman to Arsenal?

[Lord Tyrion]

You may offer more of a war chest than Southampton, but they have a production line of good players.

Dont get me wrong, EFC also bring many good players through, but Soton are unsurpassd, recently. Might have a bearing on it.

I was very careful in my wording so as not to offend Southampton fans. That club has been brilliant in how it has been run, brought players through, league position etc. I think Everton are comparable but I would argue but we seem a little more willing to splash some cash whereas Southampton have not. That may well be a financial pair play thing but does that mean that he may have plateaued at Southampton. Their owner is uber rich but the record signing is around £12m. I would accept that a move to us is perhaps a sideways one but if sold to him properly I would argue it is on the upward curve rather than a level move. He may want his next move to be at a significantly larger club but if there is not a job available at one then it is up to the owners at Everton to sell the club to him.

 

[Blue in Munich]

Still an improvement.

Throwing an extra ball on is better than other ball-boy shenanigans, I could mention.

What, you mean the other ball boy who posted on Facebook pre-game that he was going to do what he did and then cried like a baby when Hazard kicked the ball (not him) in order to try & get on with the game? Got exactly what he deserved under the circumstances as far as I'm concerned and should never have received an apology later.

 

[TheDiablo]

What, you mean the other ball boy who posted on Facebook pre-game that he was going to do what he did and then cried like a baby when Hazard kicked the ball (not him) in order to try & get on with the game? Got exactly what he deserved under the circumstances as far as I'm concerned and should never have received an apology later.

And the ball boy was definitely also in the wrong, but only Chelsea fans can condone kicking a child, which is inexcusable for any 'man' in any situation (possibly barring self defence)

 

[Blue in Munich]

And the ball boy was definitely also in the wrong, but only Chelsea fans can condone kicking a child, which is inexcusable for any 'man' in any situation (possibly barring self defence)

Perhaps you need to check your facts? As was quite clearly proven by the video, and acknowledged by those writing and commentating on it, the child wasn't kicked, the ball was. Still never let the truth get in the way of an opportunity to have a sly dig, eh.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Perhaps you need to check your facts? As was quite clearly proven by the video, and acknowledged by those writing and commentating on it, the child wasn't kicked, the ball was. Still never let the truth get in the way of an opportunity to have a sly dig, eh.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sd38KUjmOho

Whilst the toe prob connects with the ball Hazard still connects with the ballboy

No doubt Hazard didn't intend to put the full kick on the ballboy and the ballboy himself was being stupid but the video still shows contact was made with the ballboy

It was clearly a stupid incident from all sides and the red card and ban was the correct punishment

But he was a kid ? A stupid kid but to say he got what he deserved and didn't deserve an apology from a grown man who clearly made contact with him ?

 

[Pin-seeker]

Perhaps you need to check your facts? As was quite clearly proven by the video, and acknowledged by those writing and commentating on it, the child wasn't kicked, the ball was. Still never let the truth get in the way of an opportunity to have a sly dig, eh.

Don't rise to it mate,you're only helping them improve their post count.

As for Koeman to Arsenal,personally I think it would be a good move by Arsenal.

 

[jp5]

Need to have a word with yourself if you think kicking at a kid is acceptable.

 

[richy]

And the ball boy was definitely also in the wrong, but only Chelsea fans can condone kicking a child, which is inexcusable for any 'man' in any situation (possibly barring self defence)

I'll bet if it was a bloke lying on top of the ball Hazard wouldn't of went anywhere near him. Says more about him as a man than anything.

 

[Fish]

Bejeezus, a Gooners and Koeman thread turns into old stuff and digs at Chelsea, who let the riff raff back in :mmm:

 

[SaintHacker]

I was very careful in my wording so as not to offend Southampton fans. That club has been brilliant in how it has been run, brought players through, league position etc. I think Everton are comparable but I would argue but we seem a little more willing to splash some cash whereas Southampton have not. That may well be a financial pair play thing but does that mean that he may have plateaued at Southampton. Their owner is uber rich but the record signing is around £12m. I would accept that a move to us is perhaps a sideways one but if sold to him properly I would argue it is on the upward curve rather than a level move. He may want his next move to be at a significantly larger club but if there is not a job available at one then it is up to the owners at Everton to sell the club to him.

Sideways move? Have you even looked at the league table this season?:rofl:

My personal opinion is the Koeman is going nowhere for a while, we've just had Van Dijk sign a new 6 year contract and are hoping Wanyama will sign an extension this summer. Rumour round here is that RK is being offered an improved contract with a big guaranteed summer war chest

 

[Liverbirdie]

What, you mean the other ball boy who posted on Facebook pre-game that he was going to do what he did and then cried like a baby when Hazard kicked the ball (not him) in order to try & get on with the game? Got exactly what he deserved under the circumstances as far as I'm concerned and should never have received an apology later.

Whoops, that throw-away comment soon escalated.

 

[Liverbirdie]

Sideways move? Have you even looked at the league table this season?:rofl:

Soton are finishing the season great, but I still think that Everton's squad has been mis-managed this season, and should be 4-5 places higher. Everton are historically a bigger club than Soton, but to your average foreigner, they wont see much difference. To an English player offered the same deal at both clubs, I think most would still pick the blues.

 

[TheDiablo]

Soton are finishing the season great, but I still think that Everton's squad has been mis-managed this season, and should be 4-5 places higher. Everton are historically a bigger club than Soton, but to your average foreigner, they wont see much difference. To an English player offered the same deal at both clubs, I think most would still pick the blues.

I'm not sure I agree. I think you need to factor in the age of footballers and what Everton have done in their lifetime. As an example, I'm 28 so would be entering the second half of my career as a footballer, earning weekly what I really get in a year. Offered the exact same deal and likelihood of playing, I'd lean toward Southampton. Better stadium, better facilities. Upwardly progressive over the last 5 years.

Of course Everton are a great club with a rich history, but so are Nottm Forest. Achievements in my memory are very similar to Southampton.

Koeman to Everton would be sideways. Nothing to gain and a lot to lose by making that move imo.

1 more good year and I think he would be a good fit at arsenal

 

[Liverbirdie]

I'm not sure I agree. I think you need to factor in the age of footballers and what Everton have done in their lifetime. As an example, I'm 28 so would be entering the second half of my career as a footballer, earning weekly what I really get in a year. Offered the exact same deal and likelihood of playing, I'd lean toward Southampton. Better stadium, better facilities. Upwardly progressive over the last 5 years.

Of course Everton are a great club with a rich history, but so are Nottm Forest. Achievements in my memory are very similar to Southampton.

Koeman to Everton would be sideways. Nothing to gain and a lot to lose by making that move imo.

1 more good year and I think he would be a good fit at arsenal

Dont get me wrong, there isnt much in it.

 

[Papas1982]

I was very careful in my wording so as not to offend Southampton fans. That club has been brilliant in how it has been run, brought players through, league position etc. I think Everton are comparable but I would argue but we seem a little more willing to splash some cash whereas Southampton have not. That may well be a financial pair play thing but does that mean that he may have plateaued at Southampton. Their owner is uber rich but the record signing is around £12m. I would accept that a move to us is perhaps a sideways one but if sold to him properly I would argue it is on the upward curve rather than a level move. He may want his next move to be at a significantly larger club but if there is not a job available at one then it is up to the owners at Everton to sell the club to him.

I think the clubs are pretty equal in comparison tbf. Think other than Lukaku you've spent nothing over £15 or so. Just like us. Not entirely sure how you'd sell the upward curve your on when you've finished bottom half and we've maybe got Europe? I agree your new owners could have a bearing. But I think they'd need to offer some pretty big carrots to tempt him in a years time.

Koeman wont leave this season. He's said he'll discuss a contract in summer. Which I don't think he'll sign. But he point blank refused the Holland job as said he's doesn't break contracts. Now if bar a came along maybe he'd change his mind.

 

[sawtooth]

I think the clubs are pretty equal in comparison tbf. Think other than Lukaku you've spent nothing over £15 or so. Just like us. Not entirely sure how you'd sell the upward curve your on when you've finished bottom half and we've maybe got Europe? I agree your new owners could have a bearing. But I think they'd need to offer some pretty big carrots to tempt him in a years time.

Koeman wont leave this season. He's said he'll discuss a contract in summer. Which I don't think he'll sign. But he point blank refused the Holland job as said he's doesn't break contracts. Now if bar a came along maybe he'd change his mind.

Wasn't he snubbed on a previous occasion and that's why he wouldn't take the Holland job if offered it? If he doesn't sign a contract this Summer with Soton then he probably could be off in 12 mths and maybe what I heard over the weekend could be true.

 

[Papas1982]

Wasn't he snubbed on a previous occasion and that's why he wouldn't take the Holland job if offered it? If he doesn't sign a contract this Summer with Soton then he probably could be off in 12 mths and maybe what I heard over the weekend could be true.

Going to arsenal would t surprise me.
He was overlooked previously, but has said he'd still like to manage Holland. But hadn't broken a contract as a manger yet and doesn't intend to.

 

[sawtooth]

When is his contract up?

 

[Papas1982]

When is his contract up?

12 months left. So going to you would make sense. Although he confirmed talks planned in close season.

 

[sawtooth]

12 months left. So going to you would make sense. Although he confirmed talks planned in close season.

I'd take no pleasure in poaching your manager , if he comes he comes. But he may well sit down and have talks and may even sign a new deal but as is often the case with players, there are likely to be escape clauses. We all know how it works nowadays, if his country comes calling or if he gets a call from a particular club or big enough offer etc.....

Would that count as breaking a contract? Probably not.