King Kenny ??

arnieboy said:
I bet you won't get many Koppites on here tonight slagging off Hodgson!!
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Hodgson was crap at Liverpool. One spawny result today, doesn't change that. Typical footy fans everything is based on the last result. Look out for me at Wembley, getting sick of that place. It's costing me a bomb. :)

Home/league form is shocking, but Rome wasn't built in a day.
 
Hodgson is a Top Class Coach, who has been a Success at nearly every job he has taken

Kennys record is PATHETIC
If he wasnt such a God in Liverpool hed be long gone, should be sacked, total Failure

Great Player, Anfield Legend, but total failure as a Manager this season
Nobody else with his record, would still be in employment now
 
moogie said:
Hodgson is a Top Class Coach, who has been a Success at nearly every job he has taken

Kennys record is PATHETIC
If he wasnt such a God in Liverpool hed be long gone, should be sacked, total Failure

Great Player, Anfield Legend, but total failure as a Manager this season
Nobody else with his record, would still be in employment now
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What major trophies has Hodgson consistently won - Don't throw the Swedish title in it just wont wash. He won one trophy at Inter, but they only kept him for 2 years.

Dalglish has been a failure in the league this season, but hasn't Harry (with the lead he had in January), Arsene will just keep Arsenal ticking over (finish in top four, only get to group/quarter stage in Champs league then go out. Win no trophies), AVB (massive, expensively assembled squad, may not get top four) Fergie/Mancini will be hailed a genius/dud in the next two weeks (one will finish trophyless).

Pardew, Moyes, Brendan Johnston and Paul lambert will probably be the only managers who have over-performed this season, unless Di Matteo wins the champ league.

Dalgish may win 2 trophies. OK tonnes of work to do in the league/ home form, but hey-ho he's not the only one with problems.
 
Maybe so, time will tell.

Sacking managers every year or two (ala Man city and Newcastle for years). That is what leads to relegation.

Ok we haven't won the league for years, but we have still had champs league and many trophies over the last 12 seasons, as have given managers time (and 2 second place finishes).

Our results have been woeful at Anfield, but performances haven't been. If the performances had been bad, then yes he should go. For the matchgoers, they can see that we have battered teams. One good finisher next year could make a massive difference. What I'd give for a Fowler now.

Anyway, why is no-one winding the United fans up - surely there would be some weightier catches to be had with them......
 
If you watch MOTD tonight then you will see that we had a complete repetition on most home games this season we absolutely battered them but could not score, hit the woodwork twice, a penalty turned down and then suarez blocked carrolls shot on the line, foster made some good saves and a few he knew nothing about.

IF we had someone who knew where the goal was we would be in the top four easily. I dont rate Kenny's tactics and substitutions but he is a far better manager than Hodgson was at liverpool.
 
jpenno said:
If you watch MOTD tonight then you will see that we had a complete repetition on most home games this season we absolutely battered them but could not score, hit the woodwork twice, a penalty turned down and then suarez blocked carrolls shot on the line, foster made some good saves and a few he knew nothing about.

IF we had someone who knew where the goal was we would be in the top four easily. I dont rate Kenny's tactics and substitutions but he is a far better manager than Hodgson was at liverpool.
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+1.
 
I'm sorry but when you are a supposed "top team" that is meant to be challenging for a title/champions league spot and spend the money kenny has and you are 8th in the league and could finish outside the top half the way your results are going you can't be happy.

Winnning the carling cup against a championship side does not make up for it because i really can't see you beating Chelsea.

Oh and Moyes had over achived this season!? Please explain.
 
arnieboy said:
I bet you won't get many Koppites on here tonight slagging off Hodgson!!
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Just because west brom had a lucky 1-0 win still doesn't mean hodgson is a great manager.

Hodgsons style of football and his press conference rumblings were nothing short of abysmal.

Ok our league form has been very very poor and it needs addressing in the summer but don't forget where Hodgson left us when he was fired.

A lot of this season's results havent been a true reflection in our play but by the same token pretty football doesn't necessarily win you games.
 
jpenno said:
If you watch MOTD tonight then you will see that we had a complete repetition on most home games this season we absolutely battered them but could not score, hit the woodwork twice, a penalty turned down and then suarez blocked carrolls shot on the line, foster made some good saves and a few he knew nothing about.

IF we had someone who knew where the goal was we would be in the top four easily. I dont rate Kenny's tactics and substitutions but he is a far better manager than Hodgson was at liverpool.
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Coming from a Baggies fan I thought we were fairly fortunate yesterday, however we defended resolutely and thought that we deserved at draw anyway.

Liverpool agreed had more possession and more shots, "absolutely battered them"? debateable, dont forget Brunt and Ridgewell brought good saves from Reina and Long should have score when one-on-one. Kuyt's effort that hit the post took a big deflection off Ridgewell so wouldnt that have been LUCKY if that had gone in?

In terms of Woy Hodgson, he is definately suited to the West Brom's and Fulham's of this world and was discussing this with a work colleague who is a Liverpool fan and I said that I felt that the Liverpool players quite simply did not respect Woy as he was not a big name for them and didn't want to play for him (which is why I worry about him taking the England managers job, if offered).

Robbie Savage was pointing towards Liverpool needing 5or6 players and mostly in Midfield? I thought Shearer was right though in saying that Suarez was the top scorer with 8!!! Carroll is simply not the man for the job, unless you play Downing on the wing and supply the balls for him, but Liverpool's style of play atm does not suit him.
 
bozza said:
I'm sorry but when you are a supposed "top team" that is meant to be challenging for a title/champions league spot and spend the money kenny has and you are 8th in the league and could finish outside the top half the way your results are going you can't be happy.

Winnning the carling cup against a championship side does not make up for it because i really can't see you beating Chelsea.

Oh and Moyes had over achived this season!? Please explain.
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As we keep saying, we are not at all happy with our league form, we are happy that we have broken our 6 year trophy drought. However, we dont want to chop and change managers at the drop of a hat. Sometimes faith has rich rewards.

Moyes gets too much praise sometimes, but TBF if he finishes 7th/8th he will have done well, considering he signed no-one last August.
 
PPE said:
Coming from a Baggies fan I thought we were fairly fortunate yesterday, however we defended resolutely and thought that we deserved at draw anyway.

Liverpool agreed had more possession and more shots, "absolutely battered them"? debateable, dont forget Brunt and Ridgewell brought good saves from Reina and Long should have score when one-on-one. Kuyt's effort that hit the post took a big deflection off Ridgewell so wouldnt that have been LUCKY if that had gone in?

In terms of Woy Hodgson, he is definately suited to the West Brom's and Fulham's of this world and was discussing this with a work colleague who is a Liverpool fan and I said that I felt that the Liverpool players quite simply did not respect Woy as he was not a big name for them and didn't want to play for him (which is why I worry about him taking the England managers job, if offered).

Robbie Savage was pointing towards Liverpool needing 5or6 players and mostly in Midfield? I thought Shearer was right though in saying that Suarez was the top scorer with 8!!! Carroll is simply not the man for the job, unless you play Downing on the wing and supply the balls for him, but Liverpool's style of play atm does not suit him.
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We did batter you, but you did have chances, I wont deny that. Why Long didn't shoot when one on one, I don't know. However, if both sides would have put our gilt-edged chances away it would have been 8-3.
 
Liverbirdie said:
We did batter you, but you did have chances, I wont deny that. Why Long didn't shoot when one on one, I don't know. However, if both sides would have put our gilt-edged chances away it would have been 8-3.
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Agreed, but IF Barcelona would have taken their chances against Chelsea last week it would have been 6-1 to Barcelona! Its all about sticking it in the onion bag and stopping the other team putting it in yours, which we did!
 
Stats tell a different story:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Liverpool_F.C._managers

Kenny has a higher win percentage than Roy while managing LFC in recent times and Kenny's win% back in 1985 is over 60%.

BUT, LFC have dropped 27 points at home so far this season. Picking up an additional 20 of those 27 points would see the reds in third place. Home form simply not good enough and as I've said before, the reds seriously need a clinical finisher in the box, Fowler or Owen in the side today and I could manage this side!! :)
 
PPE said:
Carroll is simply not the man for the job, unless you play Downing on the wing and supply the balls for him, but Liverpool's style of play atm does not suit him.
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Downing & Supply (of crosses) in the same sentence....................your having a laugh!
If I was the manager of ANY club I'd find it easier to pick a broken nose rather than pick Downing.
If the style of play doesn't suit him, why pay around £20m for him?
Or by 'style of play' do you mean 'sport'? because football certainly doesn't seem to suit him.

Slime.
 
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