Football is all about winning. All this about performance is irrelevant if you want success. Granted, if you entertain whilst doing it then that's a bonus. But wining is what matters most if success to your team is you main desire.
Jose Mourinho's Chelsea
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Football is all about winning. All this about performance is irrelevant if you want success. Granted, if you entertain whilst doing it then that's a bonus. But wining is what matters most if success to your team is you main desire.
Slime
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Yoo hoo ....................... I'm over here Stu, but I don't think I'm a Chelsea basher. In fact I was desperate for them to win today!
Why do you think I'm one of those anyway?
I'll admit to thinking Mourinho is a piece of shameless filth, albeit a fabulous tactician and John Terry is ............................... well, John Terry, and that's not a good thing, oh, and watching Chelsea against Atletico Madrid and Man City was like watching a dog with fleas, but I'm not a Chelsea basher ....................... I just say it as I see it.
If they won the Premirship I wouldn't have a problem with that.
Slime.
clubchamp98
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Liverpool just not good enough.== Fastest winger in the league( Sterling) oldest fullback in the league (Cole) why is Sterling playing on the left.== Liverpool never got behind the defence at all .== the only way to get past a parked bus is to go around it, Liverpool did not do this.=== Chelsea game plan was perfect but would you like to pay your hard earned to watch that.== Rodgers tactics never changed for 90 mins even when not working was hard to watch.
Chelsea don't play like it in ever game. They're just more experienced and know when the result comes first. Cole may be old. But he's still probably the best defensive lb in the league. Think rodgers just got schooled today. Still, few more weeks for twists to maybe occur.
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This is whats wrong with " Modern Day Fans" who turn up to be entertained. I as "Supporter" go the game to support the team and watch football. Maybe i'm old fashioned.
No football team has ever played 38/42/46 entertaining games every season because they can't. Some games will be fantastic to watch but you can't expect it every week.
I think your post highlights how much football has changed and now you've got "fans" demanding entertainment because they pay £50+ a ticket.
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I think that's just down to experience. But he'll have to learn quickly because most european games, teams set up exactly the same as that today and we won't get through the group stages.
HawkeyeMS
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Mate, I'm not a modern day fan. I've been watching football for 31 years from the bottom of the old division 4 to the Premier League. I started to lose interest when We got to the Premier League. The Premiership is supposed to be the best league in the world and the CL is supposed to be the pinnacle of european football yet just about everytime I turn on to watch the supposed best teams in Europe I get served up dross like Chelsea vs Atletico Madrid the other night. If all you care about is winning then fine, you enjoy yourself but you'll excuse me if I don't find it very interesting.
out of curiosity who do you support. Because, whilst I can agree that to a neutral the game you've mentioned may have been boring. The fans of Chelsea would of loved it. If you only watch the odd game there's a fair chance they're not all gonna be 6-3. But to fans that watch their team week in, they watch for the result, not just to be entertained.
Dellboy
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I thought it was a great game to watch, well done Chelsea. They did what they had to and came away with the points.
Just hope Man C go on to win all there games and win the Prem.
Just hope Man C go on to win all there games and win the Prem.
I think you'll find its Fulham, which explains a lot :smirk:
Birchy
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Defending is an art just as much as attacking. Seeing goal fests is all good and well but if that's means utterly abysmal defending then whats the point.
I like it when a team has to produce something special to score a goal and Chelsea stopped Liverpool from doing that. Keeping that attack scoreless is fantastic especially considering they didn't have their best centre back pairing and keeper playing.
I like it when a team has to produce something special to score a goal and Chelsea stopped Liverpool from doing that. Keeping that attack scoreless is fantastic especially considering they didn't have their best centre back pairing and keeper playing.
HawkeyeMS
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I support Fulham but that isn't really relevent here (and I am not one of these Fulham fans who hates Chelsea because they are Chelsea, I would be saying the same about any team, it just happens to be Chelsea at the moment) I understand that when it is your team you have an blurred view of what actually happens on the pitch and winning does rather improve your memory of the performance. However, as a fan of a team who is never likely to win anything, I find watching games where we are not involved rather easier to watch and I just don't think that a team with the resources that Chelsea have should be going into games against title rivals and CL Semi finalists and Parking the Bus, it just doesn't seem right. I know it is effective and I'm sure the Chelsea fans are delighted but entertainment it is not.
Birchy
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Whats wrong with the modern game is football fans being brainwashed by watching 25,000 games a season on sky sports. Football has always been about attacking and defending. There has always been low scoring tactical games since the game started its not a new modern thing at all.
If you cant find entertainment from a tactical game of football go watch basketball, plenty goals or baskets or whatever they call them.
Read your signature by Jack. Jose applied that to football with Chelsea yesterday and that's why he is a genius just like Jack was.
HawkeyeMS
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What's wrong with Modern football is money
Birchy
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Hacker Khan
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I think Jose is a petulant, decisive and when he starts questioning the officials (who lets remember, without them there would be no game) a nasty little &$%&%£%%. And the sad thing is most of the press just lap it up as they are too afraid/stupid/in awe to say point out to his face he is talking complete garbage most of the time. Yes we know that he does it to deflect from his teams performance but really, does he have to treat others with such contempt to do it?
But in terms of winning games then I think he's just being a pragmatist. His team can attach and play sweet flowing football if they need to, but in this case he recognised that Liverpool would probably beat them at that game when you compare the players available. So he switched tactics and it obviously worked.
I don't really like the guy, I think most neutrals (if such a thing exists) would like to see Liverpool win the league this year instead of teams with an unlimited supply of money available to them. But hey ho, I'm sure there are more twists to come but can't help thinking Liverpool have blown it now. And Chelsea may well win the Champs League with the biggest display of bus parking ever seen in the final.
It does really, spend longer watching lower level footy and you'll get to enjoy more goals as the tactics are a lot more you go, we go. I've visited Crabble (dover) on occasion and the games are always entertaining. But I would want to watch it week in week out.
But that's always been around also pro rata, the 1st £1m player back in the 70's, the first £10,000 in 1928 (Arsenal), how much was that in those days? Man Utd and even Liverpool have led the front in breaking the records on Transfer deals and wages and now they complain because others can now buy the best of the best and compete against them, its laughable. Rooney just lately and RVP are the highest wage earners and George Best was the first £1000 a week earner, the first to break the £10,00 per week bracket was John Barnes and the first to break the £50,000 mould was Roy Keane, Sol Cambell was the first to break £100k per week and so it goes on.
the reason I asked was wasn't to accuse of any bias, which you still defended yourself against. But simply to see what standard of team you support. Supporting a team like Fulham or saints in my case can make us idealists at times. Because relegation aside our games will have less significance than a semi final in Europe or potential title decided. Chelsea don't typical park the bus every game. They've scored similar amounts of goals as arsenal who are often held up as the footballing philosophers. They also, IMO didn't park the bus. The difference between what they did and west ham recently is when they got the ball they ventured over the half line with purpose.
I agree id generally prefer high goal scoring games, but as Alan Hansen has pointed out many a time. Not all goals are beause of good football. Plenty are from inept defending. Surely it's not good to be watching poorly skilled defenders hand it on a plate all the time.
sawtooth
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Nothing wrong with "parking the bus" after all defending is a big part of the game. Chelsea's tactics were spot on, sit back and be very tight defensively and try to hit Liverpool on the break. They did so albeit with a Gerrard slip up and after that Liverpool had to come forward even more which played into Chelsea's hands.
I don't like Chelsea but you have to congratulate Mourinho on how he organises teams to get results.
I don't like Chelsea but you have to congratulate Mourinho on how he organises teams to get results.
