Jeremy Corbyn

[c1973]

Na, you can't ignore the lyrics, not buying that one.

It was a decent attempt though.

I get your point and agree with your take on it to an extent. I just feel that the individual is not above the occasion.

He's quite willing to stomach talking to murderers for the greater good, but can't sing the nation's anthem? Nah, I'm not buying that. He's stuck somewhere between the student union bar and the backbenches if you ask me.

It'll be interesting to see if he can cope with being inside the tent pissing out as opposed to outside it pissing in.

 

[FairwayDodger]

It'll be interesting to see if he can cope with being inside the tent pissing out as opposed to outside it pissing in.

That I can agree with!

 

[c1973]

That I can agree with!

There ye go. Conflict resolution in action, right there.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

When he was Welsh Secretary, John Redwood trying to sing the Welsh National Anthem was absolutely hilarious...perhaps the Oppo Leader does not know the words to GSTQ.

Goodness can you smell the media desperation, terrorists, songs, poppies, donkey jackets.
Just for fun how about Corbyns attitude to Europe, in line with the right wing section of the Tory party and UKIP I see.

 

[c1973]

It's hardly desperation being concerned with his views on terrorist organisations, is it!

:mmm:

 

[Spuddy]

It's hardly desperation being concerned with his views on terrorist organisations, is it!

:mmm:

The quotes from earlier regarding the IRA were made by John McDonnell, not Corbyn.

 

[c1973]

The quotes from earlier regarding the IRA were made by John McDonnell, not Corbyn.

As pointed out by myself earlier for the avoidance of doubt.

 

[Spuddy]

As pointed out by myself earlier for the avoidance of doubt.

Sorry, I didn't see that :thup: . What are Jeremy Corbyn's views on terrorist organisations that you have concerns with? As far as I can see he doesn't condone them but realises that in order to move forward you need to open a dialogue with them.

 

[c1973]

Sorry, I didn't see that :thup: . What are Jeremy Corbyn's views on terrorist organisations that you have concerns with? As far as I can see he doesn't condone them but realises that in order to move forward you need to open a dialogue with them.

Well, referring to the death of bin Laden as being a tragedy is a concern. Accepting free holidays for him and his wife to Gazza, funded by a charity banned by the U.S. Government for being a fund raiser for terrorism. His links with republicans.

That's enough to concern me, without delving too deep.

Not sure what the press are concerned about though, as that is what my post was in response to.


Look, if you think he's leadership material fair enough. I don't.

 

[Old Skier]

Sorry, I didn't see that :thup: . What are Jeremy Corbyn's views on terrorist organisations that you have concerns with? As far as I can see he doesn't condone them but realises that in order to move forward you need to open a dialogue with them.

I could go with this, the only flaw is it is one sided dialogue with no effort to speak to Falkland Islanders, the NI Protestants or the people of Isreal to name but a few.

All this fawning over career politicians (off all party's) makes I laugh. They find their market wether it be left or right and do and say what appeases that side. They have no interest in U.S., just hanging on to their overpaid life style.

 

[Old Skier]

Just for fun how about Corbyns attitude to Europe, in line with the right wing section of the Tory party and UKIP I see.

The parliamentary Labour Party cabinet members have stated today that the Labour Party will be campaigning to stay in Europe so the mans principles may well take a back seat on this one or split the party making the rumblings of the Torys seem minor.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Well, referring to the death of bin Laden as being a tragedy is a concern. Accepting free holidays for him and his wife to Gazza, funded by a charity banned by the U.S. Government for being a fund raiser for terrorism. His links with republicans.

That's enough to concern me, without delving too deep.

Not sure what the press are concerned about though, as that is what my post was in response to.


Look, if you think he's leadership material fair enough. I don't.

It would have helped if you had continued to mention that the 'tragedy quote' was that bin Laden was executed and not brought to trial.
I am inclined to agree with him, we have more than enough martyrs already.

 

[c1973]

It would have helped if you had continued to mention that the 'tragedy quote' was that bin Laden was executed and not brought to trial.
I am inclined to agree with him, we have more than enough martyrs already.

Aye. On more than this one would suspect.

 

[USER1999]

So bin Laden goes to a show case trial, three months of spouting his prejudicial rubbish, and some posh twit gets him off on a technicality.

Justice?

Or just ping him when you get the chance?

 

[Hobbit]

So bin Laden goes to a show case trial, three months of spouting his prejudicial rubbish, and some posh twit gets him off on a technicality.

Justice?

Or just ping him when you get the chance?

You missed out the upsurge in kidnapping, beheadings and ransoms to bargain for his freedom.

 

[Old Skier]

So bin Laden goes to a show case trial, three months of spouting his prejudicial rubbish, and some posh twit gets him off on a technicality.

Justice?

Or just ping him when you get the chance?

Not the best solution, ask Alex Blackman.

 

[TheDiablo]

I'm no fan of Corbyn, or Labour for that matter, but this national anthem malarkey confuses me. He has been put in a position through a democratic process because a huge number of people of that ilk support his beliefs. So why would he then, within days, suddenly become something that has is not?! Just to tow a line and look good on the telly? Doesn't seem that concerns him, and certainly won't concern any people who would have voted for him.

Personally, I respect him more for sticking to his principles in the face of media pressure. Even though I in no way whatsoever agree with him on the topic!

 

[Doon frae Troon]

You missed out the upsurge in kidnapping, beheadings and ransoms to bargain for his freedom.

Or to look at it in another way, an upsurge in kidnapping, beheadings and ransoms to avenge his execution.

A trial would have turned it into a world event and shown the world's disapproval of a bunch of murdering cowards.
Instead they lost that opportunity and racked up the terrorism.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

The singing of the national anthem is something that I believe shouldn't be forced upon people - if you don't sing the anthem it shouldn't mean anything about how you feel about your country etc

But Corbyn I understand has a very big dislike for the military - wants to leave NATO , remove our nuclear arsenal and even disband the armed forces.

I don't think there is anything to judge from his lack of singing the anthem - looking a mess whilst others are showing respect isn't right though.

But the right people in the country will show the respect our heroes from the Battle of Britian. Only have to read up the story about Prince Harry giving up his chance to fly with the BBMF for a war veteran

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Or to look at it in another way, an upsurge in kidnapping, beheadings and ransoms to avenge his execution.

A trial would have turned it into a world event and shown the world's disapproval of a bunch of murdering cowards.
Instead they lost that opportunity and racked up the terrorism.

Bin Laden was killed during the raid to capture him as opposed to being executed - the intention was to capture him if he surrendered and for him to stand trial.

Was there an upsurge in beheadings etc ?