Jeremy Corbyn

[c1973]

Labour need Milliband back.

 

[jp5]

But not 60% of the whole population. Labour activists only make up a tiny proportion of the UK population, and their views are at odds with the generally aspirational majority, who don't want socialist ideals and the country flooded with immigrants!

How are those net migration figures looking currently?

 

[FairwayDodger]

I see JC as having the potential to both lose and gain a large number of supporters. The interesting thing to see will be whether he can do the latter without so much of the former.

I don't see any of the others being able to garner that level of support. Watched a few hustings and didn't seem to me to be much alternative to the Tories - so if I was a swing voter having voted Conservative, there wouldn't be much to attract me back to the other side.

I agree with this. He might be a disaster, it's true, but far too early to write him off.

 

[delc]

How are those net migration figures looking currently?

Not good, but that is largely due to the war activities of Tony Blair a few years ago! Without those, we probably wouldn't now have Islamic State, etc!

 

[FairwayDodger]

Not good, but that is largely due to the war activities of Tony Blair a few years ago! Without those, we probably won't have Islamic State, etc!

Amazing that after 6 years of Tory rule some still think they can blame labour for all the country's problems.

 

[jp5]

Not good, but that is largely due to the war activities of Tony Blair a few years ago! Without those, we probably wouldn't now have Islamic State, etc!

Think you probably need to put down the Daily Mail - you're getting a few concepts mixed up in your head.

 

[delc]

Amazing that after 6 years of Tory rule some still think they can blame labour for all the country's problems.

All the opponents of the Iraq War, including myself, pointed out that attacking a Muslim country was likely to produce a terrorist backlash. We have been proved right in Spades!

 

[Doon frae Troon]

But not 60% of the whole population. Labour activists only make up a tiny proportion of the UK population, and their views are at odds with the generally aspirational majority, who don't want socialist ideals and the country flooded with immigrants!

I think that Labour now have more members than ever, and, as I am sure you know, only Labour members can vote in a Labour election.
If aspirational mean greedy and uncaring perhaps that is why Corbyn is so strongly supported.

BTW I think you are right about the Iraq war, Bush jnr and Blair are responsible for much of the current problems.

 

[delc]

I think that Labour now have more members than ever, and, as I am sure you know, only Labour members can vote in a Labour election.
If aspirational mean greedy and uncaring perhaps that is why Corbyn is so strongly supported.

BTW I think you are right about the Iraq war, Bush jnr and Blair are responsible for much of the current problems.

Aspirational means working hard and earning good money, not scrounging off The State!

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Spinning around so fast has obviously left you a little confused. I suggest a wee lie down.

Sorry - but you've lost me. You don't have to be at PMQs every time to show someone up when you are. You are going to have to explain the 'spinning around' in that rather than just say it please.

 

[ger147]

Sorry - but you've lost me. You don't have to be at PMQs every time to show someone up when you are. You are going to have to explain the 'spinning around' in that rather than just say it please.

No I don't.

Now let's not derail everyone else's thread because you insist on having the last word.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

No I don't.

Now let's not derail everyone else's thread because you insist on having the last word.

OK - you've had it

 

[Old Skier]

Perhaps by mustering nearly 60% of the membership votes:lol:
The people have spoken, not the MP's

And how many of the 60% came from union block votes

 

[Old Skier]

I think that Labour now have more members than ever, and, as I am sure you know, only Labour members can vote in a Labour election.

Not true, the £3 mob are not members of the Labour Party and can still vote on Labour matters. Not sure where you had your info from.

 

[Old Skier]

Sorry - but you've lost me. You don't have to be at PMQs every time to show someone up when you are. You are going to have to explain the 'spinning around' in that rather than just say it please.

Let's not worry about PMQs, if Corbyn has his way he would get rid of it. He's so worried about it that he has asked for next weeks to be cancelled.

Great leader.

 

[Foxholer]

And how many of the 60% came from union block votes

Er....None!

Direct influence by Unions in the Leadership Election process was eliminated 18 months ago!

 

[Old Skier]

Er....None!

So they didn't use their block vote as they did to ensure David Miliband binned. Good to hear. :lol:

 

[Old Skier]

Er....None!

Direct influence by Unions in the Leadership Election process was eliminated 18 months ago!

I take it you listened to his acceptance speech.

 

[Foxholer]

So they didn't use their block vote as they did to ensure David Miliband got in. Good to hear. :lol:

You seem confused! Try 'Ed'!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Party_(UK)_leadership_election,_2015

Check out the 'Procedure' section!

 

[Old Skier]

You seem confused! Try 'Ed'!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Labour_Party_(UK)_leadership_election,_2015

Check out the 'Procedure' section!

Not confused finger trouble - the union block vault made sure DAVID lost.

Im presume you are basing your assumptions on Wiki not the relevant part of Corbyns speech specifically referring to all the support help and assistance that the various unions gave him.