Jeremy Corbyn

[Doon frae Troon]

Well it looks pretty certain that Labour won't get the chance to cock up the economy for at least 10 years and that Doon won't have to concern himself with Labour doing a deal with the SNP!

With the amount of Tory rebels sticking their heads above the parapet I am not so sure, anyway isn't the economy cocked up already, Harold Wilson's fault probably.:lol:

Let's wait and see, I think you may get a surprise.
Laughing my socks off about those loony Tory/Labour voters though.

 

[Ethan]

Well it looks pretty certain that Labour won't get the chance to cock up the economy for at least 10 years and that Doon won't have to concern himself with Labour doing a deal with the SNP!

I wouldn't be so sure either. The current narrative is one that sits firmly in the Tory comfort zone and allows them to keep their several sub-parties together and keep Labour on the back foot. That will change if Corbyn wins. OK, a few Labour types will complain and even leave, but that is fine.

 

[bluewolf]

I'm also of the opinion that one of the worst things for the Tory Party would be to be in power with no viable opposition.. As it is they just about hold on to some sort of unity, take away the opposition and it'll be a free for all with all the factions vying for power.. Politics, like life, is about balance..

Note, this is not an attack on the Conservatives. I think the same would happen if Labour had no viable opposition..

 

[chrisd]

I'm also of the opinion that one of the worst things for the Tory Party would be to be in power with no viable opposition.. As it is they just about hold on to some sort of unity, take away the opposition and it'll be a free for all with all the factions vying for power.. Politics, like life, is about balance..

Note, this is not an attack on the Conservatives. I think the same would happen if Labour had no viable opposition..

Spot on ^

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I think the Right of UK politics should heed 'you got to be careful about what you wish for'. Under Corbyn it is no doubt that Labour will be portrayed as Far Left, and I think that they will stay that way for as long as Corbyn is leader - some years I guess - maybe until defeat at next election. Then a new leader and a move away from his position - and that move (though it may not be huge) will be seen as positive amongst many voters and their perception of Labour and likelihood to vote Labour could well change.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I think the Right of UK politics should heed 'you got to be careful about what you wish for'. Under Corbyn it is no doubt that Labour will be portrayed as Far Left, and I think that they will stay that way for as long as Corbyn is leader - some years I guess - maybe until defeat at next election. Then a new leader and a move away from his position - and that move (though it may not be huge) will be seen as positive amongst many voters and their perception of Labour and likelihood to vote Labour could well change.

Irrespective of who is the UK Labour leader I cannot see Labour ever having a majority in England/Wales.
Cameron is playing right into the SNP's hand, all he needs to do is more of the same and you can guarantee that Scotland will be an independent country within 10 years. Could be sooner if the Europe vote goes in favour of the Tories/UKIP.

Interesting times.
The only way the UK can survive IMVHO is with a Labour government and that will not happen without the Scots Labour votes.

 

[Ethan]

Wow. Corbyn comfortably wins in round 1.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Wow. Corbyn comfortably wins in round 1.

That's not a win it's a massacre. 59.5%

 

[Old Skier]

That's not a win it's a massacre. 59.5%

Hamas, Moscow and Sinn Fein already booked seats at the celebration party.

 

[MegaSteve]

Not quite sure why folk have got the idea the Tories want out of Europe...
Their paymasters simply wouldn't tolerate an exit policy...

 

[Old Skier]

Cameron is playing right into the SNP's hand, all he needs to do is more of the same and you can guarantee that Scotland will be an independent country within 10 years. Could be sooner if the Europe vote goes in favour of the Tories/UKIP

As you continually appear to have no respect for the Scotish voter who have already stated quite strongly in a democratic vote that they didn't want independence you should ensure next time that the whole of the UK get a vote because the noisey minority like yourself do your country no good and you could get your wish.

 

[Ethan]

Hamas, Moscow and Sinn Fein already booked seats at the celebration party.

Oh what a wit you are. Although you have a rather limited grasp of politics.

 

[Ethan]

Not quite sure why folk have got the idea the Tories want out of Europe...
Their paymasters simply wouldn't tolerate an exit policy...

Not their official policy but then again many of their other official policies like supporting the NHS aren't their true plan. Plenty of individual Tory MPs want out of Europe, though.

 

[Old Skier]

Although you have a rather limited grasp of politics.

Bugger I appear to have joined your club

 

[Old Skier]

Not quite sure why folk have got the idea the Tories want out of Europe...
Their paymasters simply wouldn't tolerate an exit policy...

Be interested if Corbyn does an about face on this as it is his life long wish to get out. The man that will demand loyalty after spending most of his political career voting against his party.

 

[Ethan]

Bugger I appear to have joined your club

Is that the best you can come up with, really?

You are not in my club in so many ways.

 

[Old Skier]

You are not in my club in so many ways.

I know, it's my inability to sink so low as you. Are you really a mod or are you just on here as a wind up merchant.

I enjoy reading your one sided bias view on life. Did you have to move because of you inability to get on with anyone or is your avatar just a wish.

 

[delc]

He's been elected as leader, so that's the end of the Labour Party for the next few years!
:whoo:

 

[jp5]

He's been elected as leader, so that's the end of the Labour Party for the next few years!

:whoo:

Couldn't be further from the truth!

 

[MegaSteve]

Plenty of individual Tory MPs want out of Europe, though.

I am sure they do but come the day of reckoning they'll mostly toe the party line...
At least Carswell had the balls to crossover to UKIP...

Be interested if Corbyn does an about face on this as it is his life long wish to get out. The man that will demand loyalty after spending most of his political career voting against his party.

The left of the party were outspoken about joining in the first place...
Hopefully Corbyn will return party to this stance...
Part of why I voted for him...

Labour needs to disassociate itself from the right wing policies of its recent history...