Jeremy Corbyn

The worst politician currently in Westminster. Abbott is awful, truly awful. Hobbit is right, they were "special friends"

I am very surprised at Shami Chakrabati taking a position. I am not a fan at all but I thought she was smarter than this. Anyone linked to Corbyn so strongly will be tainted and dispensed of immediately this car crash experiment finally ends. Others are playing the long game and staying away. She has jumped in and ended her political career before it has stopped. At least some good news comes out of all this :D
 
and UKIP having a actual scrap over their leadership. The liberals....do they still exist...nowhere. I could start a party now and be in opposition after the next election by doing a Tony Blair and saying the right things just to get in power.
 
He has not changed his mind on immigration and thinks that there are not to many migrants that have come to the UK.

well at least he is honest. Which is why he and his party will not govern for another generation. Have not spoken to one person who agrees with anything that comes out of his cakehole.

looks like we will be governed by the also out of touch Tories for a long time to come.
 
They were talking on the radio today about him wanting to have a salary cap as well so you could only earn up to a certain amount per year and no more than that. Surely people should be encouraged to earn as much as they can as long as they are paying the correct level of tax on their earnings.
 
He is a total dreamer and unelectable which is scary for the future, with no opposition for the Tories up to their usual tricks of dividing the country through class brackets, NHS being run into the ground well on the way to privatisation and brexit looming.
 
They were talking on the radio today about him wanting to have a salary cap as well so you could only earn up to a certain amount per year and no more than that. Surely people should be encouraged to earn as much as they can as long as they are paying the correct level of tax on their earnings.

By the afternoon he was changing his story on this and immigration. He seems to have a very short attention span.
 
He has not changed his mind on immigration and thinks that there are not to many migrants that have come to the UK.

well at least he is honest. Which is why he and his party will not govern for another generation. Have not spoken to one person who agrees with anything that comes out of his cakehole.

looks like we will be governed by the also out of touch Tories for a long time to come.

...and (without wishing to take this off topic) this should be a major worry for unionists in Scotland.

Sturgeon herself is quite clear that one very significant consideration for Scots voters will be Labour's prospects in England. If these look poor, and a Tory Westminster government for the next 20yrs is on the cards that will 1) not encourage much in the way of a Labour revival in Scotland for Westminster - why bother if even with Scottish Labour MPs Labour is feeble and cannot be realistically seen as a party of government (Labour in Holyrood may be a different matter) and, 2) the prospect of 20yrs of Tory government with Scotland in a United Kingdom may not be that attractive a proposition to many Scots voters.

The United Kingdom needs a strong and effective Labour Party and LP representation in Westminster for more than just Westminster considerations.
 
They were talking on the radio today about him wanting to have a salary cap as well so you could only earn up to a certain amount per year and no more than that. Surely people should be encouraged to earn as much as they can as long as they are paying the correct level of tax on their earnings.

So 95% tax on earnings over £5million?

Actually - as much as a cap might sound attractive emotionally to many - my feeling is that it would not address the issues that the poorer have to deal with on a day-to-day basis. To me a salary cap would be little more than vacuous and populist gesture politics - though unfortunately we know that that sort of politics does seem to work (at least in the short term) for many these days.
 
well at least he is honest. Which is why he and his party will not govern for another generation.

I don't think it's a generation thing at all, the general population is far too fickle nowadays. It just takes the right person to say the right things, at the right time obviously, and they have a great chance of getting in power. I give you Donald Trump as an example :D
 
I don't think it's a generation thing at all, the general population is far too fickle nowadays. It just takes the right person to say the right things, at the right time obviously, and they have a great chance of getting in power. I give you Donald Trump as an example :D

Beezerk I don't mean it as a generation, eg young uns. I mean it as a generation 10-15 yrs. That aside I have always said that a strong opposition makes a strong government. I think this is the weakest/ worst opposition in my living memory.
 
So 95% tax on earnings over £5million?

Actually - as much as a cap might sound attractive emotionally to many - my feeling is that it would not address the issues that the poorer have to deal with on a day-to-day basis. To me a salary cap would be little more than vacuous and populist gesture politics - though unfortunately we know that that sort of politics does seem to work (at least in the short term) for many these days.

Actually Corbyn made an interesting point there. The rich are getter richer whilst the poor are getting even poorer. Unless you happen to make luxury cars, boats or aeroplanes, I can't see much 'trickle down'. It also forgets the Keynesian truth that workers are also consumers, which many of them can only be on credit these days. Personal debt is increasing at an alarming rate! Companies seem to be run for the benefit of their senior executives, rather than their shareholders, workers or customers!
 
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Corbyn leaves, Chukka or the right Milliband comes back and suddenly Labour are a different party. That could happen in the next few years. I'm not saying it will but it could. Then all the useless Labour MP's currently holding Shadow Minister jobs can clear off back to oblivion and the decent ones with more than 1/2 a clue can start speaking sense again. I cringe each time I hear a Shadow Minister speak. Not a decent one amongst the lot and some are worse than useless.

Corbyn is an irrelevance. He sits alongside Tim Farron in that sense, both seem very nice but no one is listening to them. No greater crime when you are leader of an opposition party.
 
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