ger147
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Where's that dog with a bone emoji...
Itv leaders debate.
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chrisd
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As was the Welsh candidate
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Thought she came across very well -
Always feel sorry for the green party as their intentions are the most honourable but its just impossible for them
chrisd
Major Champion
Honourable in a perfect world but totally un affordable as I believe the people of Brighton gave found out
SocketRocket
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Watching QT. The same old cookie comes up again defending immigration "Our NHS would collapse tomorrow if it wasn't for immigration"
Is it right that we plunder Nurses and Doctors that have been trained at the expense from some of the poorest countries in the World and take advantage rather than invest in training our own people. For me it's a national disgrace. The same goes for skilled tradesmen, we are backward in our investment in apprenticeships.
We also dont need an infinite supply of cheap unskilled labour that drives down the wages of working people. And! before anyone suggests it, it's not OK for British people to fester on the dole rather than do these jobs.
Is it right that we plunder Nurses and Doctors that have been trained at the expense from some of the poorest countries in the World and take advantage rather than invest in training our own people. For me it's a national disgrace. The same goes for skilled tradesmen, we are backward in our investment in apprenticeships.
We also dont need an infinite supply of cheap unskilled labour that drives down the wages of working people. And! before anyone suggests it, it's not OK for British people to fester on the dole rather than do these jobs.
SocketRocket
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Your comments on Farage tonight didn't seem to be part of the program I watched and again I ask you to substantiate them?
OK! you cant be bothered to look into it yourself. This may educate you:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/gen...ow-each-party-compares-on-defence-policy.html
Regarding Gay Mariage, it's not what UKIP are currently saying but the dissatisfaction of many mid-Englanders to the way the Conservatives pushed it through without their consent.
SocketRocket
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It's impossible for them due to their rubbish policies.
palindromicbob
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Yup they all fly over into an A&E open their legs and shout "I want an abortion"
Sorry but here you are talking rubbish. When Irish women fly over to the UK for an abortion they are going private. Marie Stopes being one of the major providers of this. This also includes Northern Irish women who aren't entitled to an abortion on the NHS unless the is medical risk despite being UK tax payers due to the messed up legal system regarding abortions both north and south of the border. Those from Ireland choosing to have an abortion are going through enough without idiots believing they are also draining the NHS. Any Irish abortion that might happen on the NHS is very much in the minority.
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SaintHacker
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Been unable to sleep tonight as every time I close my eyes I see Ed Milliband staring at me through a tv!
This may give the Farage haters some pause for thought
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2015/04/02/leaders-debate/
This may give the Farage haters some pause for thought
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2015/04/02/leaders-debate/
Blue in Munich
Crocked Professional Yeti Impersonator
Interesting link. According to that, on immigration;
The Conservatives have promised to cut net immigration to tens of thousands.
Labour state that immigration needs to be properly controlled and managed.
For the LibDems, Nick Clegg is "a believer in the benefits of well managed immigration".
UKIP want an Aussie styled points system.
Based on that, can someone explain the difference between UKIP and the 3 main parties, apart from the obvious difference that Farage is completely open about his party's views, unlike some others (yes, you Mr. Clegg).
RW1986
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Been unable to sleep tonight as every time I close my eyes I see Ed Milliband staring at me through a tv!
This may give the Farage haters some pause for thought
https://yougov.co.uk/news/2015/04/02/leaders-debate/
haha made me chuckle.
pokerjoke
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Spot on.
Some people only hear what they want to hear.
Im with Farage we need to control the people that come here not just letting everyone in.
Numbers just has a knock on effect to Hospitals,schools jobs etc.
I thought the woman were also calm and collected with NS impressing.
Hacker Khan
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Think this thread proves that people will always see what they want to see and the vast majority of viewers have so many prejudices and preconceptions that nothing that was said would change that.
In fact all it does is harden them so some of us will think Farage is an even bigger nasty racist tosser and others will believe even more now that he is a breath of fresh air and is exactly what this country needs. And let's face it, none of us are going to change our minds. And the same applies to the other party leaders.
In fact all it does is harden them so some of us will think Farage is an even bigger nasty racist tosser and others will believe even more now that he is a breath of fresh air and is exactly what this country needs. And let's face it, none of us are going to change our minds. And the same applies to the other party leaders.
Beezerk
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Only caught the last 45 minutes of it, the Welsh lady came out best for me, Sturgeon seemed poor from the bits I saw.
What was Milliband on? I wanted him to inspire me but he just delivered a coached speech at the end which left me cold!
What was Milliband on? I wanted him to inspire me but he just delivered a coached speech at the end which left me cold!
Adi2Dassler
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Would probably go along with this.Disturbing that there seems to be a consensus he won last night, but not surprising.A nation ( The UK) with a reasonable proportion of bigots and closet racists, nodding sagely as Farage demonised johnny foreigner.
User20205
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Agreed, I watched 10 mins before I switched off. The posturing and political point scoring turn me off. No one answers questions in these things, just delivers pre prepared sound bites.
Whilst I believe farage is a capable politician I can't believe anyone would consider voting for him.
His party sells a myopic fearful view of the world. How can anyone object to gay marriage ?
Isolationist policies don't work economically or socially, that's been proven
bluewolf
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Sorry, didn't see the "debate", so currently, my only reference is this forum. With regards to Farage's comments on HIV, was it just HIV, or was it any serious illness?
not according to any polls
and anyone who agrees with Ethans ludicrous statement really needs to have a word with themselves, you are acting no differently to the people you berate.
PhilTheFragger
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My twopenny worth
Greens : Didnt fill me with confidence, nice ideas, but costly
Plaid Cymru : Obviously fighting her corner, non entity outside wales, came over well
Lib Dems : Feel a bit sorry for Clegg, decent bloke, and whilst in power has definitely held back some of the conservatives more extreme plans. But caved in on student finance and is in for a hammering at the polls
SNP: Thought she did really well, they are going to take seats off Labour in Scotland and may well hold the balance of power after the election. Talked a lot of sense.
UKIP: Farage had a good night, came out fighting, got his message across and was as you would expect, outspoken at times. will take votes from both Tory & Labour. whether this will result in many seats is anyones guess.
Labour: Sorry but I have little confidence in Milliband, he comes over a bit smarmy and that annoying nasal voice GRRR. Labour have still not recovered from getting the economy into the mess and I dont trust them with the economy.
Conservative: Thought Cameron did well, although he still comes across as a rich Tory Boy. Feel better about the economy than with any of the others, but its far from perfect. HS2 needs rethinking and the bedroom tax was a PR disaster. But at the moment Im probably going to vote Tory
Interesting historical note
Go back to the John Major government , they had steered the country through another recession, had withdrawn us from the ERM which had reduced interest rates dramatically and the econony was looking better than it had for years. Most commentators thought he had a good chance for 5 more years, but the electorate handed it all over to New labour.
I wouldnt be at all surprised if the same thing didnt happen again. although I dont see any party winning outright and there will have to be come arrangements with smaller parties to form a working government Labour/SNP. ??
Greens : Didnt fill me with confidence, nice ideas, but costly
Plaid Cymru : Obviously fighting her corner, non entity outside wales, came over well
Lib Dems : Feel a bit sorry for Clegg, decent bloke, and whilst in power has definitely held back some of the conservatives more extreme plans. But caved in on student finance and is in for a hammering at the polls
SNP: Thought she did really well, they are going to take seats off Labour in Scotland and may well hold the balance of power after the election. Talked a lot of sense.
UKIP: Farage had a good night, came out fighting, got his message across and was as you would expect, outspoken at times. will take votes from both Tory & Labour. whether this will result in many seats is anyones guess.
Labour: Sorry but I have little confidence in Milliband, he comes over a bit smarmy and that annoying nasal voice GRRR. Labour have still not recovered from getting the economy into the mess and I dont trust them with the economy.
Conservative: Thought Cameron did well, although he still comes across as a rich Tory Boy. Feel better about the economy than with any of the others, but its far from perfect. HS2 needs rethinking and the bedroom tax was a PR disaster. But at the moment Im probably going to vote Tory
Interesting historical note
Go back to the John Major government , they had steered the country through another recession, had withdrawn us from the ERM which had reduced interest rates dramatically and the econony was looking better than it had for years. Most commentators thought he had a good chance for 5 more years, but the electorate handed it all over to New labour.
I wouldnt be at all surprised if the same thing didnt happen again. although I dont see any party winning outright and there will have to be come arrangements with smaller parties to form a working government Labour/SNP. ??
from what I saw Blue (didnt see it all) he mentioned this as it was brought up, all he mentioned was the fact that 60% of people identified with HIV in the UK and receiving up to £25000 PA from the UK govt have come from overseas. He said we should be looking after our own people first and this could save nearly £2Billion PA
