Is this racism?

[Hobbit]

Like I said earlier, being racist is natural, as we are tribal. The most racist race I have ever met are Afro Carrabean. In my opinion there isn't anything wrong with being racist, it's being a racialist where the problems lie

You're mixing racism with ethnicity. Being tribal is about ethnicity. Being racist is about being ignorant.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

It should be possible for anyone to say what they like in private but in public it is necessary to have regard to society's norms, the audience and the context. What annoys me is those people who report or claim to be offended by something they overheard from a private non-public conversation.

OK - but if someone said something to me in private that I found offensive or thought it might be offensive to others then I'd say so. And I have done that. It would however stay in the room.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

You're mixing racism with ethnicity. Being tribal is about ethnicity. Being racist is about being ignorant.

It is difficult to not notice an individual of an ethnic minority in our town in Surrey...though as you'd hope I think nothing further about that individual. I have to admit, however, to feeling a teensy bit uncomfortable that I notice...I wish that I didn't.

I suspect that this comes from my Glasgow Southside posh suburb upbringing - when there was absolutely no ethnic minority community and none of any such minority at school. We had a few Americans - but even though they were a bit different we thought they were great as they had cool games and sports gear we didn't have - and they had basketball...

 

[Mrs Wiggles]

You're mixing racism with ethnicity. Being tribal is about ethnicity. Being racist is about being ignorant.

Clever wording, that actually means nothing

 

[Mrs Wiggles]

OK - but if someone said something to me in private that I found offensive or thought it might be offensive to others then I'd say so. And I have done that. It would however stay in the room.

Seriously, if you lived in my village, it would take you no more than a few minutes to be offended. Political correctness hasn't reached the Lincolnshire coast yet, and thank God for that !!

 

[Dando]

Be a different story if he was wearing Crocs 😆

And socks!

 

[Mrs Wiggles]

You really have spouted some rubbish at times on here.

What I find sad is that for the last ten years of your army career you must of spent a great deal of time defending the religion and people who were responsible for so many deaths of British soldiers. I accept you were doing your job, and no doubt very well, it's just an ironic and sad situation I would of hated to have been in. The army and it's personnel have my utmost respect

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Seriously, if you lived in my village, it would take you no more than a few minutes to be offended. Political correctness hasn't reached the Lincolnshire coast yet, and thank God for that !!

Well I am glad I don't live there

 

[Deleted member 16999]

What I find sad is that for the last ten years of your army career you must of spent a great deal of time defending the religion and people who were responsible for so many deaths of British soldiers. I accept you were doing your job, and no doubt very well, it's just an ironic and sad situation I would of hated to have been in. The army and it's personnel have my utmost respect

Can I ask you to send me a pm if you have any questions on my career.
I’m certainly not going to publicly discuss all I did or didn’t do.
At the moment you are adding 2 + 2 and getting 5.
Not sure if you’re on a wind up or not, but if you have any genuine questions please send a msg.

 

[Hobbit]

Clever wording, that actually means nothing

Yes it’s such clever wording it’s the definition, not my definition. But if you think you’re above an official definition maybe you need to educate yourself. You know, “teaching old dogs new tricks.”

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Great interview with John Barnes today. Worth a watch.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1074868958078083073

 

[Mrs Wiggles]

Great interview with John Barnes today. Worth a watch.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1074868958078083073

I am surprised he can sit upright with that chip sat on his shoulder.

 

[Hacker Khan]

I am surprised he can sit upright with that chip sat on his shoulder.

Is it worth asking you to research the racist abuse that he had to put up with in the past?

Look, everyone has a right to express an opinion but if all you are going to do is pollute each thread with sub UKIP/BNP rhetoric, insinuations and slurs then could you give that angle a rest as it is just boring. Congratulations, you have got a rise out of me and may be others , and if that is your intention then congratulate yourself on a job well done. But god it makes you look like a sad individual at times and does nothing for the reputation of this forum if we end up going down this route on a lot of threads.

 

[Mrs Wiggles]

Is it worth asking you to research the racist abuse that he had to put up with in the past?

Look, everyone has a right to express an opinion but if all you are going to do is pollute each thread with sub UKIP/BNP rhetoric, insinuations and slurs then could you give that angle a rest as it is just boring. Congratulations, you have got a rise out of me and may be others , and if that is your intention then congratulate yourself on a job well done. But god it makes you look like a sad individual at times and does nothing for the reputation of this forum if we end up going down this route on a lot of threads.

I shall ignore the insults and rise above them. Yes, he and all black players were abused many years ago. For what it is worth I am a season ticket holder at a premiership football club, and I haven't heard any racist abuse for a long long time. I also don't believe there is currently any racism in the British game. Those dark days are dead and buried, and it's time people like Barnes just got on with life.

 

[User20205]

Why are you on here if you’re not going to post about golf? Surely you’d be better off on a forum that reflects your specific views?
Re racism in football, have you been asleep for the last month?

Also....if there is no racism in modern English football surely that shows multi culturalism works, football fans are colour blind...make your mind up 🤣🤣

 

[PhilTheFragger]

Mrs Wiggles has left the building, it’s likely the door hit him in the backside on his way out 👍

 

[IanM]

I am surprised he can sit upright with that chip sat on his shoulder.

I saw a very young John Barnes play for Watford at Aldershot in Divison 4. The abuse black players got back then was disgusting... ..that’s not a chip, it’s a scar, a deep one.

 

[IanM]

I also don't believe there is currently any racism in the British game. Those dark days are dead and buried, and it's time people like Barnes just got on with life.

Been to Stamford Bridge much?

 

[williamalex1]

Is this racist ?, seeming people from Dubai don't like the Flintstones, but people from Abu dabi do.

 

[Imurg]

Is this racist ?, seeming people from Dubai don't like the Flintstones, but people from Abu dabi do.

I would say You need to get out more but you can't..
But
You need to get out more