Is distance embarrassing?

[bobmac]

What a lovely way to spend a Monday, thanks for inviting me over Peter (AKA Nosevi).
I haven't read all the posts on the thread but I'll give my take on what Peter is saying.

There are 5 laws in golf.
Hitting the sweet spot
Clubface direction
Swing path
Angle of attack
Speed
All the above have a DIRECT influence on the ball.

The plan is to transfer as much speed from the clubhead to the ball as possible.
No point in having 120mph swing speed if you're hitting it out of the toe all the time or swinging out to in with an open clubface.

If your speed is good but the other 4 aren't so good, you aren't hitting the ball as far as you could.
So by improving the other 4 WITHOUT increasing your speed, you will hit it further.

Pete has discovered with the help of his simulator that his angle of attack was too steep giving him too much spin and losing distance.
By shallowing his angle of attack, he has improved his launch angle and spin rate which means the ball isn't stalling any more, especially against the wind and has therefor added distance WITHOUT hitting it harder.
I think he just wanted to share that with others on here that may need/want more distance that you can achieve it by hitting it better, not harder.

As far as Pete's distance is concerned I think to say he averages 300 would be a wrong choice of words.
I would say his NORMAL drive is over 300.
While he did hit a couple that weren't his Sunday best, he did hit it consistently over 300 as can be seen below.





So I guess to sum it up, if you feel you are lacking distance, try and get your numbers checked, you may not be getting the distance you could be getting with your speed if one of your laws is out.

Anyway Pete, thanks again for the invite, and I look forward to returning soon.

 

[Hacker Khan]

Not sure about the rest of you, but what I've taken out of this thread is that if you have your own launch monitor and golf simulator in your garage, plus loads of Pro V1s, then you can achieve driving distances equal to the very best pros on tour. Every day's a school day.

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Not sure about the rest of you, but what I've taken out of this thread is that if you have your own launch monitor and golf simulator in your garage, plus loads of Pro V1s, then you can achieve driving distances equal to the very best pros on tour. Every day's a school day.

I've taken out of this thread that I don't need to read/listen to experienced, world class instructors to hit the ball further. Something else I've learned is that launch monitors can be very misleading. I tried the G30 3 wood on a LM and I was consistently hitting it 280 yards. Funny that......on the course my 3 wood goes 240

 

[Smiffy]

Funny that......on the course my 3 wood goes 240

Yeah but you are normally stuffed out with bacon baguette Gordon

 

[Hacker Khan]

I've taken out of this thread that I don't need to read/listen to experienced, world class instructors to hit the ball further. Something else I've learned is that launch monitors can be very misleading. I tried the G30 3 wood on a LM and I was consistently hitting it 280 yards. Funny that......on the course my 3 wood goes 240

I think you'll find that your 'real life on the course' setting was not calibrated correctly. And God had been messing with it to give you incorrect figures that did not tie up with the true readings you get on a launch monitor.

And also 240 yards with a 3 wood?? Chinny reckon Mr Big Shot...

 

[hovis]

I think you should play in the champions of champions next year and show em what you've got mate

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

Yeah but you are normally stuffed out with bacon baguette Gordon

Sausage Rob, sausage.......the food of champions. Bacon is for those wimps like swinger that don't hit it very far

 

[guest100718]

I've taken out of this thread that I don't need to read/listen to experienced, world class instructors to hit the ball further. Something else I've learned is that launch monitors can be very misleading. I tried the G30 3 wood on a LM and I was consistently hitting it 280 yards. Funny that......on the course my 3 wood goes 240

Ah the good old jacked up LM story that often gets peddled.....

I personally have tried LMs at Direct golf, AG, my local pros GC2 and a trackman, my own swinbyte 2, a Swing speed radar, the sim at urban golf,the mizuno fitting centre and a couple of others... all were very accurate and, sure you get the odd screwy reading, but on the hole they are very good bits of kit that can really make a difference if used correctly.

 

[Nosevi]

Not sure about the rest of you, but what I've taken out of this thread is that if you have your own launch monitor and golf simulator in your garage, plus loads of Pro V1s, then you can achieve driving distances equal to the very best pros on tour. Every day's a school day.

Or you could have taken that if you do some of the things Bob has mentioned above and I have talked about you can maximise your distance off the tee. Bob has said for some that getting their numbers checked can indicate things to work on and you could have taken that I've said on several occasions that if anyone wants to do that for free on my kit to give me a shout. Really very sorry if for any reason you don't like the fact I have this kit. I thought inviting total strangers to my house to save them a few quid, see where they are in an unrushed way without the pressure of limited time on a comercial launch monitor and with time to 'experiment' to see what helps could maybe help their game if they want help in that direction was not that bad a deal. Take from it what you wish. I've taken that Region3 was about spot on.

Thanks for your input Bob and thanks for coming over. Definitely do it again some time

 

[bluewolf]

Or you could have taken that if you do some of the things Bob has mentioned above and I have talked about you can maximise your distance off the tee. Bob has said for some that getting their numbers checked can indicate things to work on and you could have taken that I've said on several occasions that if anyone wants to do that for free on my kit to give me a shout. Really very sorry if for any reason you don't like the fact I have this kit. I thought inviting total strangers to my house to save them a few quid, see where they are in an unrushed way without the pressure of limited time on a comercial launch monitor and with time to 'experiment' to see what helps could maybe help their game if they want help in that direction was not that bad a deal. Take from it what you wish. I've taken that Region3 was about spot on.

Thanks for your input Bob and thanks for coming over. Definitely do it again some time

I'd leave it now mate.. I've taken some useful information from the thread, but now it's gonna be mainly inhabited by the doubters, naysayers and mockers.. Anyone who wants to read the information can do. Anyone who wants to knock it can have their own little thread knocking party.. :thup:

Anyway, off to the Hospital, see you all later..

 

[bobmac]

Not sure about the rest of you, but what I've taken out of this thread is that if you have your own launch monitor and golf simulator in your garage, plus loads of Pro V1s, then you can achieve driving distances equal to the very best pros on tour.

You dont need to buy all the kit, there are pros that give lessons using trackman etc
I was with Pete for 3 hours and we used 3 balls
As for the distances, you may not believe them but they were accurate for me ('normal' drive 260-270) so no need to question Pete's figures.

I've taken out of this thread that I don't need to read/listen to experienced, world class instructors to hit the ball further.

Well, you could have a lesson with a pro who uses the technology and get the best of both worlds.

Something else I've learned is that launch monitors can be very misleading.

So all LM are wrong?

I wonder if there would have been the same reaction on this thread if Pete had said he had increased hit distance from 240 to 260 ?

The point Pete was making was you can hit the ball further by hitting it better, not harder.

 

[Slab]

I've learned that distance is important (actually I knew that bit already) but I'm somehow supposed to feel embarrassed if I cant get it out there

I agree my 14/14 fairways hit on Sunday are meaningless because I couldn't get my 3w past 180 off the tee, my PP on the other hand had some distance stories to tell back in the pro shop as he replenished the dozen balls

I really honestly admire how he hits it... just not where he hits it!



I think though that his issue is easier to fix than mine

 

[Nosevi]

I've taken out of this thread that I don't need to read/listen to experienced, world class instructors to hit the ball further. Something else I've learned is that launch monitors can be very misleading. I tried the G30 3 wood on a LM and I was consistently hitting it 280 yards. Funny that......on the course my 3 wood goes 240

Not going to get into a tis/tisn't. The kit I use is used by Titleist, Ping, cleveland, taylormade, cobra, callaway, aldila, wilson staff, fujikura, the pga tour, about 50% of the top pros right now, the R&A are allegedly looking to adopt it........ the list goes on. I had a pro with me hitting his normal yardages (bob was calling it before he hit it - one day ....... ), I would suggest the kit I use is probably fairly accurate

 

[guest100718]

With the tech getting ever more affordable, home setups will become much more common. There are already some great personal launch monitors and bluetooth swing analylers out there and they are only getting better and cheaper.

 

[Nosevi]

I've learned that distance is important (actually I knew that bit already) but I'm somehow supposed to feel embarrassed if I cant get it out there

sorry, that was far from my intention. It was about maximising what you have, nothing more. Thought that has been clear throught but maybe not, sorry.

With the tech getting ever more affordable, home setups will become much more common. There are already some great personal launch monitors and bluetooth swing analylers out there and they are only getting better and cheaper.

Very, very true.

 

[Slab]

sorry, that was far from my intention. It was about maximising what you have, nothing more. Thought that has been clear throught but maybe not, sorry.
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Apologies, I didn't mean in the context of your opening or subsequent posts, just the wider context that a off line 300 yard drive will still get a gasp from others while a straight 180 will get gasps for a very diff reason

 

[CheltenhamHacker]

Wow, some people on here really have a chip on their shoulder. This thread is absolutely ridiculous at times. Bob, who on most other threads gets people fawning over him to back him up, has vouched for Nosevi and it seems he still gets doubted/ridiculed.

Some people are longer than others, sorry to break that to everyone. Try not to get your panties in a bunch that one guy gets it out to 300+

 

[User20205]

I wish I had that set up in my garage!!

I'd be around like a shot if I was closer, on the proviso that you made a decent cup of tea

it's possible to optimise the conditions from a launch monitor, but not make it lie.

 

[Doh]

Wow, some people on here really have a chip on their shoulder. This thread is absolutely ridiculous at times. Bob, who on most other threads gets people fawning over him to back him up, has vouched for Nosevi and it seems he still gets doubted/ridiculed.

Some people are longer than others, sorry to break that to everyone. Try not to get your panties in a bunch that one guy gets it out to 300+

Well said.

 

[Nosevi]

Apologies, I didn't mean in the context of your opening or subsequent posts, just the wider context that a off line 300 yard drive will still get a gasp from others while a straight 180 will get gasps for a very diff reason

Thanks, I don't like offending people but seem to have here. Glad you're not one of them

Wow, some people on here really have a chip on their shoulder. This thread is absolutely ridiculous at times. Bob, who on most other threads gets people fawning over him to back him up, has vouched for Nosevi and it seems he still gets doubted/ridiculed.

Some people are longer than others, sorry to break that to everyone. Try not to get your panties in a bunch that one guy gets it out to 300+

Cheers. Luckily largely water off a duck's back

I just thought I could share some things I've learnt and put into practice. Bob nailed it for me when he said I had worked hard on hitting the ball better, not harder - you can pick up distance through improving technique. Someone asked to show how, I used myself as an example - fat 40 year old with a dodgy knee but with hard work (yes and using the tech wisely) has got a big increase in distance. Wasn't meant to be a 'how to thread' was more a light hearted 'dig' about the fact that talking distance appears in some quatres to be somewhat 'taboo'.

think I'm done. If anyone has gained an insight into distance off the tee, great. For those who are offended - sorry.

Pete