Is distance embarrassing?

[Nosevi]

So.....

All you need to increase distance is 11 grand, 2 hours a day and a local Pro on tap.....

If only I'd known it was so simple

Or someone offering for you to use his £11k kit without spending a penny perhaps...... In fairness I've increased mine by about 40-50 yards. Perhaps others could set their sights a tad lower and still benefit a little

 

[Nosevi]

Well enjoy the free time

Whilst the indoor is great for ball striking etc

You still need to practise the short game

Couldn't agree more, practice that about 2 hours a day too. No substitute for time around the green.

 

[NWJocko]

Or someone offering for you to use his £11k kit without spending a penny perhaps...... In fairness I've increased mine by about 40-50 yards. Perhaps others could set their sights a tad lower and still benefit a little

Was joking, I'm on here so obviously am a monster off the tee :whoo:

Sounds like you're living the dream, enjoy :thup:

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Couldn't agree more, practice that about 2 hours a day too. No substitute for time around the green.

Certainly sounds like you have the equipment , ethic and ability to be a very good golfer - good luck

 

[Nosevi]

Was joking, I'm on here so obviously am a monster off the tee :whoo:

Sounds like you're living the dream, enjoy :thup:

You're not wrong and also quite a long story that I'm not going to go into on a forum

Certainly sounds like you have the equipment , ethic and ability to be a very good golfer - good luck

Thanks

 

[Nosevi]

Ok, few people following this and this will be a first come, first served type deal.

I have an old P3pro. It's basically this with no turf on the top, just a marked rubber surface but the turf can be retrofit for $40 (http://www.p3proswing.com/index.php/accessories/all-products/pro-economy.html) .

There is the base unit, power cable, cable to connect it to a laptop or computer and the software (driving range and a couple of golf courses to play but you can add more now). It's basically the same as the Optishot in the review part of the forum so have a look at that, it tracks your club as you strike the ball and makes a pretty good guess as to where the ball would go given the club face angle, swing path, angle of attack etc. In fact it can be used with a foam ball or even no ball at all, just hit a rubber tee, I've used it in my lounge. It's not bad at telling you where the ball would go and playing the courses is just good fun.

I have no use for it at all (for obvious reasons) and my mates just shamelessly use my new setup anyway. Does anyone want it? No guarantee other than it worked last time I switched it off and the deal is you have to come and get it (I live near Lincoln). It's very used but serviceable and free to a good home.

Any takers? First post wanting it after this one gets it.....

 

[virtuocity]

Happy to pay postage and or charity donation

 

[Nosevi]

Happy to pay postage and or charity donation

Ok the kit is yours. Drop me a PM with your address and I'll get it posted. Will cost a bit to post though, weighs a bit. Charity donation to Help for Heroes would be my preference if you want to but no pressure to do so

 

[Alex1975]

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[Toad]

Ok, few people following this and this will be a first come, first served type deal.

I have an old P3pro. It's basically this with no turf on the top, just a marked rubber surface but the turf can be retrofit for $40 (http://www.p3proswing.com/index.php/accessories/all-products/pro-economy.html) .

There is the base unit, power cable, cable to connect it to a laptop or computer and the software (driving range and a couple of golf courses to play but you can add more now). It's basically the same as the Optishot in the review part of the forum so have a look at that, it tracks your club as you strike the ball and makes a pretty good guess as to where the ball would go given the club face angle, swing path, angle of attack etc. In fact it can be used with a foam ball or even no ball at all, just hit a rubber tee, I've used it in my lounge. It's not bad at telling you where the ball would go and playing the courses is just good fun.

I have no use for it at all (for obvious reasons) and my mates just shamelessly use my new setup anyway. Does anyone want it? No guarantee other than it worked last time I switched it off and the deal is you have to come and get it (I live near Lincoln). It's very used but serviceable and free to a good home.

Any takers? First post wanting it after this one gets it.....

Great offer mate, hope you enjoy it Virtuocity.

 

[Stuey01]

Endless patience nosevi!
All threads on here about distance descend into mockery and disbelief, it's sad really.

Anyway, love your gc2 set up, very jealous. I would love a set up like that.

 

[Nosevi]

Endless patience nosevi!
All threads on here about distance descend into mockery and disbelief, it's sad really.

Anyway, love your gc2 set up, very jealous. I would love a set up like that.

I'm just a bit stubborn (learn it from my wife I think......).

It's part of the game just like any other - some people just have no 'feel' on a green (got a mate like that) and no matter how hard they try they just struggle with it, some even have the yips and are not looking forward to the end of anchored putters one bit. My old man is a great advocate of the 'Texas Wedge' and putts from silly distances away despite having played the game for decades, his chipping is abysmal even after umpteen lessons on that aspect. People say "Just do it like this!!" but he still struggles with it.

Others aren't getting anything like their potential distance out of the driver due to their technique. It is no different to any other aspect of the game. Obviously I can only tell someone the theory (centreness of strike, upward blow to keep sppin down, clubface square to swing path, maybe even accelerate through the ball rather than snatch from the top.....) but a decent Pro should be able to help put some of that into practice. Having Bob over was very useful as I could say what I was doing and he could translate that into the 'why' behind the numbers. Anyone in this area could do a lot worse than booking a session or 2 with him.

Disbelief - yep. Kind of thought that using the kit used in the performance institutes of the likes of Ping and Titleist as well as by several Touring Pros on a daily basis pre tournament round in order to check their distances for that day, and hitting next to a PGA Pro who knows how far he carries it to verify the kit would maybe dispel that a tad......

Anyway, 230 odd posts - hopefully if nothing else it prompted discussion, a positive thing on a forum I'd suggest. The thing to take away is that, forget the numbers involved, through working on technique I put about 20-25% on my drive. Getting a bit more distance is no substitute for a sharp short game or good course management, but it doesn't have to be - the three aren't linked they are all just aspects of the game. If distance isn't something you're bothered about that's great, no need to pay any attention to this at all. If it is hopefully you gained some ideas about how to improve it. I've had a couple of takers to come and use the GC2, anyone else wants to just drop me a PM.

Pete

 

[Deleted Member 1156]

I look forward to seeing you at a forum meet and smashing it out there :thup:

 

[Nosevi]

I look forward to seeing you at a forum meet and smashing it out there :thup:

Thanks, look forward to meeting some of you in the spring

 

[garyinderry]

Ah yes, but the 'average golfer' has not yet read this thread

Joking of course. But on Mark Crossfield's video (I subscribe to his channel as it happens) he says about changing things like - if they can just change small things like hitting up on the ball by 2 degrees the average golfer would pick up yardage. That's to reduce the spin and you do that by not getting ahead of the ball. That's kind of what I was getting at, obviously a pro should be able to help you do this.

just out of interest, looking at my driver swing before I was taught or knew anything about balance or the kinetic chain or timing or..... Well any of that stuff really you should be able to see a difference. I was actually fitter then as I had a serious knee injury between the two but hopefully people can see that with basically the same (or similar) physical assets you can make a bit of a difference in this area if you want to. (Anyone points out I've lost my hair a bit since then, I know - kids!)

Then (bit like Bambi on ice really)
http://youtu.be/G-szGxx5yJo

Now, the vid I posted before
http://youtu.be/UrikgGCQg9c

I know it's been said it's not easy to make that degree of a change, but just a bit of it would help. Guessing I was about 220 off the tee at the time of the first vid.

Something you said struck a cord with me tonight at the range. I tried to keep my head still and not dip into the shot. Seemed to work a treat. I was making nice crisp contact.

Checked some old swing videos and my head drops quite a bit on the downswing. No wonder I make such deep divots.


I tried the same with the driver but mostly concentrated on irons tonight. This is something I will continue to work on.

Good stuff, cheers lad! :thup:

 

[Nosevi]

Something you said struck a cord with me tonight at the range. I tried to keep my head still and not dip into the shot. Seemed to work a treat. I was making nice crisp contact.

Checked some old swing videos and my head drops quite a bit on the downswing. No wonder I make such deep divots.


I tried the same with the driver but mostly concentrated on irons tonight. This is something I will continue to work on.

Good stuff, cheers lad! :thup:

No probs.


One thing that *could* be the case (not saying it is but could be) is that when you see your head dipping on the downswing when looking 'down the line' it's caused by your head tilting towards the target at the top of the backswing. This causes your downswing to be steep and you can get deep divots on the irons and a lot less distance on the driver as it's nigh on impossible to hit up on it. See if you can get a vid of your swing face on and see if, when you get to the top of the backswing, a line from the top of your head to your chin is about vertical or if it leans towards the target. If your shoulder slides right on the backswing but your head stays still it can set you up for this steep dipping downswing which will rob you of distance as you get nowhere near as good a strike.


As I say, may not be the case but dipping head and deep divots it's a possibility that's perhaps worth looking at. I 'cured' it by staying more centred on the backswing - no shoulder slide so head stays vertical, better strike, more distance. You could look at it to see if it helps, may or may not

 

[garyinderry]

No probs.


One thing that *could* be the case (not saying it is but could be) is that when you see your head dipping on the downswing when looking 'down the line' it's caused by your head tilting towards the target at the top of the backswing. This causes your downswing to be steep and you can get deep divots on the irons and a lot less distance on the driver as it's nigh on impossible to hit up on it. See if you can get a vid of your swing face on and see if, when you get to the top of the backswing, a line from the top of your head to your chin is about vertical or if it leans towards the target. If your shoulder slides right on the backswing but your head stays still it can set you up for this steep dipping downswing which will rob you of distance as you get nowhere near as good a strike.


As I say, may not be the case but dipping head and deep divots it's a possibility that's perhaps worth looking at. I 'cured' it by staying more centred on the backswing - no shoulder slide so head stays vertical, better strike, more distance. You could look at it to see if it helps, may or may not

Yeah I've know I have a pretty ingrained reverse pivot going on. I just didn't realise how much I in turn lowering into the shot makings the club bottom out even deeper.

My usual winter ball striking would be ball, turf, foot long deep divot. Looking forward to Saturday now to see if I can stay more still and clip clean irons off the turf.

 

[Nosevi]

Yeah I've know I have a pretty ingrained reverse pivot going on. I just didn't realise how much I in turn lowering into the shot makings the club bottom out even deeper.

My usual winter ball striking would be ball, turf, foot long deep divot. Looking forward to Saturday now to see if I can stay more still and clip clean irons off the turf.

With me it was all about keeping my weight 'inside' my right foot on my backswing. Weight more centred meant no shoulder slide and when that happened my head stayed more centred and didn't lean which in turn gave me a better strike. Like I said, may or may not work but worth a bash. Interested to hear how it goes

 

[guest100718]

With me it was all about keeping my weight 'inside' my right foot on my backswing. Weight more centred meant no shoulder slide and when that happened my head stayed more centred and didn't lean which in turn gave me a better strike. Like I said, may or may not work but worth a bash. Interested to hear how it goes

Thats exactly what I have been working on. It feels very weird, like i wont be able to generate enough power, but the reverse is true. I have been hitting some really good shots and getting much more distance of the tee.

 

[Foxholer]

Thats exactly what I have been working on. It feels very weird, like i wont be able to generate enough power, but the reverse is true. I have been hitting some really good shots and getting much more distance of the tee.

Lots of things in Golf are counter-intuitive, especially in relation what makes for a more efficient swing! And there's quite a bit of 'personalisation' too. I know a (particularly wealthy) guy (he has a separate Golf/Fitness studio on his nearly 2 acre Wentworth property) who 'sacked' several of the supposed 'best' coaches who wanted him to put himself in positions his body wasn't capable of! A supposed middle-of-the-road coach achieved far more by working within his limitaions!