Iran admit downing civilian airliner

Tashyboy said:
So you have not heard of Iranians attacking oil tankers in the Gulf, or attacking oil refinery’s With drones. Have 5 mins on Mr Google and enlighten yourself. I did.
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Do you mean the Japanese & Norwegian tankers in the gulf that the Trump administration has blamed on Iran, but which other experts have open minds on; that one?
 
murphthemog said:
This just sheer incompetence by the Iranian military. They put a sensitive military base near a major airport, and then get trigger happy when a plane flies nearby. They are idiots. Sadly, I am sure they will pick on some minor military personnel, and punish them severely, when in reality, this will have come from way higher up.
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Yup, perish the thought that the US should shoot down an Iranian civilian airliner, mistaking it for something else. Still, at least they wouldn't lie about it if they did and they'd promptly accept responsibility...
 
Blue in Munich said:
Yup, perish the thought that the US should shoot down an Iranian civilian airliner, mistaking it for something else. Still, at least they wouldn't lie about it if they did and they'd promptly accept responsibility...
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The downing of aircraft deliberately or by accident is unfortunately not that uncommon in aviation history. The US have questionable history here (Iran Air Flight 665) and their record of friendly fire is all too well known.
 
drdel said:
There is a very good reason that Top Secret data is not released for 30 years!! it would be daft to show intelligence to your enemy: sources can be researched and removed.
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But we aren’t talking about 30 year old intelligence. We are talking about a justification for this action alone which was allegedly because their was an imminent threat.
 
Blue in Munich said:
I’m suggesting that if Trump hadn’t sanctioned the assassination then the Iranians would have had nothing to respond to and it wouldn’t have happened. And I’m sure you know that is what was meant.
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Blue in Munich said:
An error committed in the aftermath of their attack on the American bases, that action being in direct response to the Trump sanctioned assignation of the Iranian general. Had Trump not sanctioned the initial action, the response & heightened tensions that led to the error would not have existed.

Put it another way; how many times has that flight flown over that airspace without incident prior to Trump's little stunt? Sorry, but the two incidents are inextricably linked for me.
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we had an incident at work a few years back where a women found out her husband had been cheating on her and dried out her life savings. the woman got drunk and decided to go and confront the other woman. on the way she had a car crash and badly injured two young guys. by your arguement it was the husbands fault for cheating on his wife because had he not cheated then non of this would have happened?
 
Any chance of you folks loosening up your immigration laws?
We're swirling down history's toilet drain over here.

I won't be a bother.
I can always find something familiar to eat at TGI Fridays. There's still one near Leicester Square, I think.
 
hovis said:
we had an incident at work a few years back where a women found out her husband had been cheating on her and dried out her life savings. the woman got drunk and decided to go and confront the other woman. on the way she had a car crash and badly injured two young guys. by your arguement it was the husbands fault for cheating on his wife because had he not cheated then non of this would have happened?
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No that was Piers Morgan’s fault.
 
Blue in Munich said:
I didn't't say the events were untrue, but a US/Israeli organisation saying Iran was responsible doesn't necessarily make that aspect of it true.
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The article lists a number of cases where Iran have been involved in international terrorism. It doesnt relate to this latest event.
They are a crackpot extremist regime who have little respect for anyone who defies their extremist religious state that has no room for personal freedoms. How can anyone trust them, just speak to any Iranian who has left the country, they will without fail tell you how bad living there is and how the government operate.
 
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hovis said:
we had an incident at work a few years back where a women found out her husband had been cheating on her and dried out her life savings. the woman got drunk and decided to go and confront the other woman. on the way she had a car crash and badly injured two young guys. by your arguement it was the husbands fault for cheating on his wife because had he not cheated then non of this would have happened?
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Is his behaviour responsible for starting the chain of events that lead to the incident? Yes it is. Would it still have happened had he divorced her & not stolen her money? Probably not. Therefore it is to some degree his fault.
 
Blue in Munich said:
Is his behaviour responsible for starting the chain of events that lead to the incident? Yes it is. Would it still have happened had he divorced her & not stolen her money? Probably not. Therefore it is to some degree his fault.
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You cant go through life thinking like that,it’s crazy.
 
Blue in Munich said:
Is his behaviour responsible for starting the chain of events that lead to the incident? Yes it is. Would it still have happened had he divorced her & not stolen her money? Probably not. Therefore it is to some degree his fault.
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If the quality control person on the condom production line had not nodded off and let a faulty batch through then Hitlers Dad may not have made his Mother pregnant and WW2 may not have started, so this lazy bloke is responsible for killing 60 million people.
OK, Im being flippent but I think you can see how this type of thinking is random.
 
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Blue in Munich said:
Is his behaviour responsible for starting the chain of events that lead to the incident? Yes it is. Would it still have happened had he divorced her & not stolen her money? Probably not. Therefore it is to some degree his fault.
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Sorry but again thays such a bizarre way to look at it. The woman was responsible for drink driving not the husband. Regardless of what's gone one before people are always 100% responsible for their own actions through their own choices they make.

Just like whoever fired the missile is responsible for the plane and not Trump. By your reasoning people would never be at fault for their own actions as they may be able to trace back to an incident thats upset them or they decide is responsible. Its a ridiculous way of always passing the blame and never accepting responsibility.
 
hovis said:
we had an incident at work a few years back where a women found out her husband had been cheating on her and dried out her life savings. the woman got drunk and decided to go and confront the other woman. on the way she had a car crash and badly injured two young guys. by your arguement it was the husbands fault for cheating on his wife because had he not cheated then non of this would have happened?
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Or if she had not been drinking and driving all the time he may have not gone looking for another woman.
two sides to everything.
 
I blame Eve. She was a clone of Adam and by having had her incestuous wicked way with him they begat many sons and daughters, who begat ....... and so we are all descended from them. No wonder we're all going to hell in a handcart :unsure:
 
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