rulie
Head Pro
Are there "non-qualifying comp" scores other than inapplicable forms of play?
Invalid handicap
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Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
I’m not sure the question but if the comp is deemed Non Q then it won’t go to your HC record
For the sake of the expected pendant arriving
You can within your ISV set the competition is ok for handicap scores
Or if the course isn’t at a qualifying standard ( or to satisfy the pendant - acceptable for HC )
When setting up the comp there is an entry requirements where you can set how many “acceptable” scores are required for entry - but the way IG works it allows you to enter but then gives you a warning
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wjemather
Well-known member
Something that used to exist under the old CONGU Unified Handicap System. Some people continue to use the terminology to describe an "acceptable score".
Following on, some people continue to refer to "qualifying competitions" when referring to "competitions from which scores are acceptable for handicapping"; and "non-qualifying" for those from which scores are not acceptable.
Continued use of this defunct terminology causes much misunderstanding and confusion because they carry additional meaning that is not applicable under WHS.
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wjemather
Well-known member
Competitions cannot be "deemed non-qualifying".
Scores are either acceptable for handicapping or they are not. All acceptable scores from competitions must be returned and submitted for handicapping.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
From our comp handbook
All competitors must have submitted at least eight WHS qualifying scores in the twelve-month period prior to a board competition. Eligible Scores Include:
1. WHS qualifying competitions scores played at 'Figgy' GC
2. General play scores submitted on a qualifying course at 'Figgy' GC
3. Official competitions scores submitted at away courses (verified by WHS records)
Ineligible players will be removed from the entry list prior to Knock-Out Draws and may be removed from a start sheet for stroke-play events if over-subscribed. Note: Ineligible players may appear on the start sheet, but they will not be able to claim any trophy or prize money and may be withdrawn from the results display.
• Some specific events such as the Club Championships, may have further entry conditions based on club competitions played.
All competitors must have submitted at least eight WHS qualifying scores in the twelve-month period prior to a board competition. Eligible Scores Include:
1. WHS qualifying competitions scores played at 'Figgy' GC
2. General play scores submitted on a qualifying course at 'Figgy' GC
3. Official competitions scores submitted at away courses (verified by WHS records)
Ineligible players will be removed from the entry list prior to Knock-Out Draws and may be removed from a start sheet for stroke-play events if over-subscribed. Note: Ineligible players may appear on the start sheet, but they will not be able to claim any trophy or prize money and may be withdrawn from the results display.
• Some specific events such as the Club Championships, may have further entry conditions based on club competitions played.
Neilds
Assistant Pro
Is the first line correct? Winter comps, etc?
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
It’s just about the language
Comps can be deemed “not acceptable for Handicapping”
Which for the man on the street means they are non handicap qualifying
So if the course has been deemed to be “not acceptable for HC’s” then any comps run that day cant be used for scores to go on your HC record
And of course any GP scores can’t be submitted
It’s all nice and simple
wjemather
Well-known member
Yes, it is correct.
If the conditions of WHS Rule 2.1 are met, scores from competitions are acceptable and must be submitted.
There is no provision for a committee to make any kind of declaration as to the handicap status of a competition.
Neilds
Assistant Pro
Sometimes I wonder if people posting on here are extremely pedantic, wanting to sound cleverer than others or maybe something else. I suspect most people on here know that ‘non qualifying’ and ‘not acceptable for HC’ mean the same thing but they want to use the ‘correct’ terminology. No wonder a lot of people think golf is stuck upIt’s just about the language
Comps can be deemed “not acceptable for Handicapping”
Which for the man on the street means they are non handicap qualifying
So if the course has been deemed to be “not acceptable for HC’s” then any comps run that day cant be used for scores to go on your HC record
And of course any GP scores can’t be submitted
It’s all nice and simple
rulefan
Tour Winner
Re post #28. Many clubs will make sure they are non-qualifying by moving teeing areas or using temporary greens thus ensuring the course being played does not have a current Course Rating.
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
I suspect a lot of it is regurgitating what EG spout and we know there are very much removed from the standard weekend club golfer - a lot of self importance
Most just want to hit the ball , walk after it and hit again and then see what their Handicap is
Some aspects of WHS are good - some a complete mess and some will defend it to the hilt
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
rulefan
Tour Winner
As a fully paid up member of the Inter-Galactic Pedants Society I must agree but my excuse is that I haven't one. I should point out that I am not a member of any pendants organisationDon’t you mean “not acceptable for handicap”
woofers
Medal Winner
To be fair, or pedantic, all the posts in this thread after #2 have naff all to do with original question in #1.
rulie
Head Pro
You may be thinking of some of my posts - however, I'm not in the UK and am trying to understand the discussions that use vernacular/local terminology.
Neilds
Assistant Pro
Wasn’t aimed at you
Arthur Wedge
Well-known member
Don’t believe it’s aimed at you
