I'm looking for a feeling

[One Planer]

OP - would look to earlier in the swing motion to help with the transition (which in lower body is all about ground pressure/force rather than weight shift or weight transfer) as what is/maybe able to happen from the top is a good bunch dependent on what's led into the top of the swing

if the 'turn away/upper body rotation' is a ways too flat it's very difficult to have the lead shoulder so lead arm move down without taking the head/upper body along too in that very first transition motion

the biggest area of flex bio-mechanically to the final piece of shoulder/chest turn to top is at the thoracic spine level junction + cervical (neck/head), the base of the spine much less flex there (as to why you see the kinda 'S shape' spine formation at the top in real good players - so the major creases across the 'lats' in the shirts )

if though the majority of 'turn' folks try to enable is from base of the spine the turn will always tend to be too flat

so first left shoulder movement would look to be 'downwards' & rotating back - rather than just turning back level

the arms can if wanted too, still work to match the plane of the shoulders at the top - it's just that the shoulder plane would be little ways steeper - then it's a bunch easier to get the separation at transition on the ways down from the top & not take the upper chest/head with it towards target to be ahead of the ball position

Is this basically starting down with the lower half while the upper half still coils?

 

[the_coach]

for sure there has to be a sequence to the swing for sure the lower half has to lead the transition - but it's millisecs in that sequence of motion

but what is real important to that - is the also the motion before

in just how the upper body rotates - so on what angle & particularly how & on what angle the shoulder plane rotates which was more to my take as to why transition is proving a mite difficult to get down

if the lead shoulder doesn't turn down to rotate back the spine tends to rotate from the base more to get near a full rotation the hips have to overturn some leading to straightening out the trail leg little ways too much - this movement tends to lock out the whole spinal column more so all of it rotates as one, on one angle which then tends to mean in transition soon as the motion to get back to ball - everything goes together - upper body along with head & lead arm all move forwards to target so the upper body gets ahead of where it needs to be, lead arm gets stuck to body for too long, all of which causes because everything is ahead delivery has to be some kind of a flip release or flip roll release

so upper body/head getting ahead means it's not possible to then have from the lead armpit, a straight lead arm, flat lead wrist inline with shaft at impact (depending on ball position with irons means a good forwards leaning strike, or with the forwards ball on tee for driver everything lead armpit/lead arm/wrist/club still in a good straight line but delivering an +AoA & with both iron/driver, the right arm still yet to straighten so maximum speed strike efficiency)

so if the shoulder plane going back to the top is a little ways steeper you can then get some separation between thoracic spine & lumber spine which means you can stay in posture easier - which means given the lower body starting down the lead shoulder can then separate away from the head & the trail shoulder can rotate down & through - so through impact the lead shoulder moving up as it rotates back without upper body/head getting ahead of the ball