I see another 'slow play' letter wins a putter

Yeh thinking about it mate,same,think i will stay at the club a bit longer then...
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It wouldn't be so bad if the old boiler lost a bit of weight and got down to a reasonable size.
But like that's ever going to happen.
Barman.......three more pints over here please.
And Nuts. Gotta have some nuts. Dry roast. Thank you.
 
Whilst slow play is annoying, what's more infuriating is the slow groups inability to let others through.

I've said it regarding pitch marks, and I'll repeat it here. I don't believe that it's ignorance, but more likely arrogance and in this case possibly ego as well.

We all live at different paces. We all walk at different paces. We all make decisions at different paces. So it stands to reason that we play golf at different paces.

Viscount17 makes a good point about knowing the course and which club to use at your home track. But if your course has a lot of visitors or societies it will take them longer than you regulars on there.

Still doesn't excuse not being called through.

I had an argument with the group in front if us a couple of weeks ago. They were two holes behind the group in front of them. I asked politely if our 2 ball could be let through. Two of the three disagreed, and a heated debate took place. In the end I just stepped up to the tee that we were having this discussion on and took my shot. Luckily it landed 8 feet from the pin (par 3). I could have sworn I heard some pretty foul language aimed in my direction, but I just didn't care. I'd been called worse things in my nightclub manager days.
 
There are a lot of variables involved in how long a round takes:
- Length of course
- Amount of rough
- Type of competition
- Number of players per group
- Number of groups per hour
- Weather conditions

Now some clever university type could probably work out an equation that will calculate the correct time for any given set of circumstances but the truth is that the time will not be constant. So to say 3 hours 45 or 4 hours maximum is not really that helpful.

I think the problem is that a lot of the time, especially in friendly knocks the time taken should be considerably less than this but because these figures are banded about there are a lot of golfers who just get into the habit of playing too slow. Going out with a couple of pals on a quiet course should probably take no more than 3 hours but far too many dawdle about, take 3 hours 30 and then congratulate themselves on having been quick !!
 
Going out with a couple of pals on a quiet course should probably take no more than 3 hours but far too many dawdle about, take 3 hours 30 and then congratulate themselves on having been quick !!
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You were following us? :D

Played yesterday at East Sussex National in a 3ball, we were the only people on the entire course (which was in superb nick) and it took us 3hrs 40 min, but we were dawdling.

Had we got there and the marshal said "You guys are the only ones on the course so you need to be back in 2hrs 30min" then we would probably wouldn't have bothered playing, WHY RUSH? It's not a race, you play at the pace you want to. If that is a fast pace then the groups in front should let you through, it's that simple and I have no problem with that.

Can't say I ever hold someone up on the course, the slowest thing is looking for my playing partners golf balls,... fortunately Smiffy normally picks up! :)
 
solution: work hard, join an expensive club and play sat morning at whatever time you feel like knowing youll never see anyone else and most importantly stfu...

as a newcomer to the real beautiful game some of the snobbery and attitudes displayed not only by people on the course but also in general are one of the main reasons it took me 32 years to get my first round in....
 
(why can't societies stick to mid-week as we do?)
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Because most of them a works societies and a lot of companies have Friday afternoons off.
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as is/does mine, but we almost always play 36 so it's a day off - that's what flexi is for.

craw - no, just having a moan. with ours it isn't occasional nor is it one society, I've known them pack 3 or 4 on nose-to-tail - god knows what the societies think
 
I get very frustrated at this topic. Lads it's a hobby, it's out of the house, away from the wife & kids and as such it should not be a race to either get into the bar or to get home and put up the wallpaper/go shopping. Chill, have an enjoyable stroll around the golf course and flipping enjoy being out FFS. If there is somewhere you should be in 3 hours don't go golfing and get up the group in fronts jacksies and huff and puff, snarl and whinge and moan. Stay away and put up the paper or go shopping then when you have time spare go golfing.
 
I accept that weekends are peak period and that competitive weekend rounds are going to be slow but assume 4 hours as a general rule of thumb for my course. However what really annoys me is going out as a singleton in the summer and having no-one on the course bar a couple of three or fourballs. Loiter on the putting green and give them a head start so they can play the tricky 2nd and 3rd but even when you catch them (usually by the 4th) and with no-one else in sight they still won't let you through. Arrogance and ego and an old school mentality ragrding single players that no amount of education and persuasion will change.

I can get round my course in 2 1/2 hours as a singleton even with my dodgy game. The way I see it, if the pace of play is slow (and god is it with the jokers we have leading off on non-comp days) but we are generally all moving then fine I can handle that. It's when it becomes stop start and you finish a hole and are waiting for the group ahead to tee off who are waiting for the green or fairway to clear and you know its going to be at least 10 minutes. No chance to get any flow or rhythmn going and I've usually lost interest after 5 or 6 holes.

By the way Smiffy I find a quick call from the 19th to the missus is the best guide. If she sounds out of breath when she answers I figure the neighbour is still there and so get another drink in before heading home
 
By the way Smiffy I find a quick call from the 19th to the missus is the best guide. If she sounds out of breath when she answers I figure the neighbour is still there and so get another drink in before heading home
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Apparently Hywel packed in the game so he can spend more time with her whilst you're out :rolleyes:
 
I will always call groups through under the following circumstances as a 3/4 ball

Lost ball
We have lost our place on the course
The group behind is playing quicker than us AND there are no other groups in front
1 ball behind (only if course is quiet and no other groups in front)

Other than these circumstances why am i obliged to call through people who either choose to run around the course or are playing so badly they want to take out their frustration on the group in front so run around the course to manufacture a problem.

4 ball is 4 hours, 3 ball 3-3 1/2 hours, 2 ball 3 hours ish.

It never ceases to amaze me how people who would not say boo to a goose off the course become loud mouthed bullys on it.

Enjoy the walk and remember, your a long time dead so cheer up :)
 
I accept that weekends are peak period and that competitive weekend rounds are going to be slow but assume 4 hours as a general rule of thumb for my course. However what really annoys me is going out as a singleton in the summer and having no-one on the course bar a couple of three or fourballs. Loiter on the putting green and give them a head start so they can play the tricky 2nd and 3rd but even when you catch them (usually by the 4th) and with no-one else in sight they still won't let you through. Arrogance and ego and an old school mentality ragrding single players that no amount of education and persuasion will change.

I can get round my course in 2 1/2 hours as a singleton even with my dodgy game. The way I see it, if the pace of play is slow (and god is it with the jokers we have leading off on non-comp days) but we are generally all moving then fine I can handle that. It's when it becomes stop start and you finish a hole and are waiting for the group ahead to tee off who are waiting for the green or fairway to clear and you know its going to be at least 10 minutes. No chance to get any flow or rhythmn going and I've usually lost interest after 5 or 6 holes.

By the way Smiffy I find a quick call from the 19th to the missus is the best guide. If she sounds out of breath when she answers I figure the neighbour is still there and so get another drink in before heading home
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Dude your issue is with ettiquette and not slow play, a 1 ball has no rights to play through a 3 ball or whatever. Most normal folk was always let you through you will always get walloppers who ignore people, but thats the individual and certainly not the majority.
 
I get very frustrated at this topic. Lads it's a hobby, it's out of the house, away from the wife & kids and as such it should not be a race to either get into the bar or to get home and put up the wallpaper/go shopping. Chill, have an enjoyable stroll around the golf course and flipping enjoy being out FFS. If there is somewhere you should be in 3 hours don't go golfing and get up the group in fronts jacksies and huff and puff, snarl and whinge and moan. Stay away and put up the paper or go shopping then when you have time spare go golfing.
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Agree 100%
 
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