I hate Gimmies

Junior said:
If people have to ask it may means they dont want to putt it. If im asked i always make light of it and make them hole it ou. You would be surprised how many miss.
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If it's at your club, surely a "No, it's a slippery putt from there" should put just enough doubt in their mind before they have to knock in the one they think is a gimme
 
Liverpoolphil said:
I remember watching Nicklaus gave that putt to Jacklin - that's the spirit the game should be played and a perfect example

Is the game really that serious for people ?

I would say I'm very generous when giving gimmies - I'm out there for enjoyment.
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I'd not be too worried in a low winnings 4bbb knock round either. I don't see asking someone to putt everything around a foot, when the greens are pretty crap, in winter or early spring is worthwhile. I'm off shortly to play my first 4bbb summer knockout and will ask them to finish off anything that I think they may miss but will be likely to reciprocate gimmees given and taken.
 
davidy233 said:
In a match I would say no - never had to do it because tapping it in match play isn't the done thing, it's my decision if I'm giving you the putt - you aren't putting pressure on me to do so by suggesting "I'll just tap it in"
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But if I had a tap in in a friendly 4bbb match and duly walked up and tapped it in and you insisted that I replay the shot, especially one that I'd make 99 times out of a 100, it wouldn't endear you to the group I wouldn't think
 
pokerjoke said:
Phil you can still be serious about golf and enjoy it at the same time.
I don't give gimmies purely because a foot putt can be missed,not very often I grant you.
I don't get how you think golf cant be enjoyed if your being serious.:confused:
Theres plenty of time for banter and enjoyment as your going around.
To me the golf is serious,not so serious I cant enjoy.:)
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Geez you might want to work on your stroke if you can miss from a foot lol

Im a pretty generous conceder, mainly I expect because Im a decent putter and because the putts i see as a formality for me I see them same for others. doesnt bother me in the slightest being asked to hole out in matches, but from a foot in a friendly match? really?
 
pokerjoke said:
Phil you can still be serious about golf and enjoy it at the same time.
I don't give gimmies purely because a foot putt can be missed,not very often I grant you.
I don't get how you think golf cant be enjoyed if your being serious.:confused:
Theres plenty of time for banter and enjoyment as your going around.
To me the golf is serious,not so serious I cant enjoy.:)
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Not give a putt from a foot in a friendly roll up or just knock about ? Really ?
 
duncan mackie said:
I really don't understand any of this at all.

1. you can only have gimmies in a matchplay situation - a gimmie in a stroke play event means the player hasn't holed out so is DQ'd so basically you aren't playing by the rules; which other ones are you choosing to ignore? That's really simple.

2. there are loads of ways to try and intimidate a player in a match; I do it every time I take a driver in senior matches! Asking for a putt isn't really one of them though. There are however many situations where a player might reasonably question whether the opponents seriously wish him to mark his 2" putt (they simply haven't got over the shock of you missing) or are fishing for a gimmie .... in the latter case it's absolutely standard not to give it; it's not rude, aggressive or even unfriendly and a pleasant " we will see it putted please is the appropriate response. In pairs events it definitely helps if you decide which one of you will deal with concessions - discussions both waste time and aren't really in the spirit of the game.
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I was talking about matchplay.
 
In a county semi final I played a match which was close but I was never up.
Opponent had a two foot putt on 18 to win, I could see he was expecting me to give it, which I should have done in the spirit of the game we played. I didn't and he missed and I won on 19th.
I still feel a bit rotten about that even 30 years later
 
Doon frae Troon said:
In a county semi final I played a match which was close but I was never up.
Opponent had a two foot putt on 18 to win, I could see he was expecting me to give it, which I should have done in the spirit of the game we played. I didn't and he missed and I won on 19th.
I still feel a bit rotten about that even 30 years later
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not a chance. you MUST hole out for the win IMO! sleep easy. he bottled it!
 
Doon frae Troon said:
In a county semi final I played a match which was close but I was never up.
Opponent had a two foot putt on 18 to win, I could see he was expecting me to give it, which I should have done in the spirit of the game we played. I didn't and he missed and I won on 19th.
I still feel a bit rotten about that even 30 years later
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I made a girl I was playing hole from 12 inches to win a match, never concede a match winning putt.
 
Doon frae Troon said:
In a county semi final I played a match which was close but I was never up.
Opponent had a two foot putt on 18 to win, I could see he was expecting me to give it, which I should have done in the spirit of the game we played. I didn't and he missed and I won on 19th.
I still feel a bit rotten about that even 30 years later
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If he missed, it obviously wasn't a gimmie so Sleep well.
 
We played the nike match play yesterday at our home course. I couldn't beleive the putts our opponents were giving us on the first 6 holes. Our greens are very tricky, we made them putt everything from 2 feet, and they missed a few. Lots of wee sliding left to righters, I don't think they realised how tricky the greens were until they got used to them.

I have a laugh on the course myself, but at the end of the day I want to win, and it's my opponents responsibility to get the ball in the hole. I expect exactly the same in return
 
bozza said:
Shouldn't you have marked it anyway or waited till it was conceded?

I know there's no penalty for playing out of turn but in matchplay it shouldn't really be done in my eyes.
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They were dithering about whether they were giving or we were marking. Each time I said "is it ok for me to carry on/finish" and only did so when they agreed.
 
Unless i am 100% certain the oppo will hole it i dont give it usually. I know i can give longer putts to certain players compared to others.

Also if somebody starts looking for a gimme i will make them putt it on purpose. At the end of the day the idea is to get the ball in the hole and if your going to maon about having to do that then you need to play a different game :D
 
Really don't get the idea of gimmes (aside from the tactical aspect in matchplay). If it's close enough to be a gimme then it's simple enough to hole it out!
 
I tend to just hole out in roll ups these days. I did miss one from inside a foot not so long ago in a comp being lackadaisical and vowed not to make that mistake again. Is it just me, but I actually enjoy watching the ball drop, even if it isn't always for a good score. Closure on the hole and I can forget it and move on. If its for a birdie or a good par save I use the ball dropping to build momentum.
 
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