I completed golf

[rudebhoy]

Haha
I would say that there are a lot of sports in the UK that have this characteristic... cricket springs immediately to mind. The sports that don't are the ones where you get injured enough to weed out the really terrible (eg both rugby codes). Not sure that this is a bad thing - playing sport, however badly, is a really life enhancing pursuit.

Congrats on the achievement btw. Definitely not to be sniffed at.

I sniffed at it because it sounded like to me.

 

[Crow]

No, it was not.

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Jan 22, 2021

Hello there!

I hope you have plenty to say.

Hello there back! Thankyou a lot for the nice welcome Crow person.

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You have a good memory!

Unfortunately it looks like paddyx didn't have plenty to say.

 

[Orikoru]

You have a good memory!

Unfortunately it looks like paddyx didn't have plenty to say.

Nope, I just know how to use the search, haha.

 

[Oddsocks]

I suspect it's alot easier for someone to get to scratch, playing 5 times a week, having a weekly lesson and so on than it is for your average office worker, maybe playing twice a week at best and a lesson once a month. So yeah fair play for getting there - but not like the OP has done it the hard way like most of us would have to.

This. I know of three Covid newbies that had no golf history. Due to their work environments and the ability to play 4-5 times per week plus practice.

One is now plus 2, one is 1.6 and his wife is 8. All three play regular knock arounds with the club pro on a weekly basis so effectively have a 4 hour playing lesson split between 3 of them.

 

[Oddsocks]

I sniffed at it because it sounded like to me.

With some of the content posted with clearly inexperienced questions, I still find it hard to believe but if he did it fair play.

 

[3 jabber]

It was 100% down to finding a coach who knows what he’s doing, he saying +3 is my target this year I’ve said no chance but we will see. My 11 year old has been going to this new coach for 4 months and his handicap has went from 45 to 28 and we are just getting started. He will get scratch faster than me and goal with him is +7 and get him on the tv playing golf.

If getting to scratch isn't that difficult then your son should have no problem getting to +7

Are These The Lowest Handicaps in Golf Today

With 20 of the world’s top amateur golfers gathering at St Andrews for the Walker Cup we are about to see some of the best golfers on the planet, with some of the lowest handicaps in the game today.

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[Orikoru]

If getting to scratch isn't that difficult then your son should have no problem getting to +7

Are These The Lowest Handicaps in Golf Today

With 20 of the world’s top amateur golfers gathering at St Andrews for the Walker Cup we are about to see some of the best golfers on the planet, with some of the lowest handicaps in the game today.

www.golfshake.com

This site has Bryson at +9.1, but it is based on his YouTube content only, and he plays some very easy courses (for him), trying to break course records and whatnot.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

It's hard to know whether it's the Dad's or the son's goal. Whilst it's not how I do, or would want to do things, if you look at people like Tiger Woods, the Williams sisters, Max Verstappen and not quite at the same level right now but look at Amari Avery who featured on the short game and is now knocking on the door of the LPGA, you can see why parents might think it's the way to go, even if it is ethically questionable.
If the child makes it like the names above they may see it as a worthwhile sacrifice and be glad their parent(s) pushed them, but if they don't make it they may see it as abusive and a lost childhood.

If a parent pushes then there is a good chance the child will quit or fail. To succeed the child had to want it more than anything else, and priorities it over everything else in their life. A p[arent cannot instill that want and focus in a child.

 

[IanM]

You can't "complete" golf.

There's always someone better, there's always someone worse.

Maybe the former wasn't true for a tiny number of people over the past 400 years!

 

[Golf is fun]

If a parent pushes then there is a good chance the child will quit or fail. To succeed the child had to want it more than anything else, and priorities it over everything else in their life. A parent cannot instill that want and focus in a child.

I'm not convinced that's true. The child wanting it makes it easier, but I believe there are plenty of people who have achieved "success" out there through being pushed by parents.
I put success in quotes, because even though it's a high attainment, if it's not what they really wanted is it success?

 

[Lord Tyrion]

If a parent pushes then there is a good chance the child will quit or fail. To succeed the child had to want it more than anything else, and priorities it over everything else in their life. A p[arent cannot instill that want and focus in a child.

I think there are a number of female, don't know why but is seems to be females more, tennis pro's who might disagree with that in later life. The pushy parent has definitely been a thing there. Psychological coercion.

 

[3 jabber]

@HPIMG How did you get on in Open qualifying?

 

[GreiginFife]

@HPIMG How did you get on in Open qualifying?

He might not be able to respond to this unless G1Z1 jumps in…

 

[Golf is fun]

I think there are a number of female, don't know why but is seems to be females more, tennis pro's who might disagree with that in later life. The pushy parent has definitely been a thing there. Psychological coercion.

I actually had an interesting discussion recently with one of the England Girls squad coaches on a topic very similar to this. It was actually around putting pace control and data around that, but the short version is the boys were generally better at it. There's not likely to be any physical reason for this, but what he observed is that after most rounds or competitions, the girls will go in the clubhouse, but the boys will mess around on the putting and chipping green a lot more.

Anecdotal, but the point is that being pushy may work more for girls than boys for this reason, in that if you push a girl to practice a bit more she will be ahead of her peers, whereas with a boy if you have to push him it's only keeping up with his peers.

 

[sunshine]

I actually had an interesting discussion recently with one of the England Girls squad coaches on a topic very similar to this. It was actually around putting pace control and data around that, but the short version is the boys were generally better at it. There's not likely to be any physical reason for this, but what he observed is that after most rounds or competitions, the girls will go in the clubhouse, but the boys will mess around on the putting and chipping green a lot more.

Anecdotal, but the point is that being pushy may work more for girls than boys for this reason, in that if you push a girl to practice a bit more she will be ahead of her peers, whereas with a boy if you have to push him it's only keeping up with his peers.

Interesting hypothesis.

There's evidence to suggest that testosterone plays a role in spatial ability, so men typically are better at creating mental images of three dimensional spaces. Pace control when putting relies on your brain creating a three dimensional image of the green and visualising the putt and the break.

It also supports the cliche that men are better at parking than women, but tests have shown that women with above average levels of testosterone perform better at spatial awareness tasks than women with average levels of testosterone.

 

[Golf is fun]

Interesting hypothesis.

There's evidence to suggest that testosterone plays a role in spatial ability, so men typically are better at creating mental images of three dimensional spaces. Pace control when putting relies on your brain creating a three dimensional image of the green and visualising the putt and the break.

It also supports the cliche that men are better at parking than women, but tests have shown that women with above average levels of testosterone perform better at spatial awareness tasks than women with average levels of testosterone.

Testosterone is a performance enhancer generally, so this is not very surprising - except to those who think testosterone and PEDs in sport are only useful for endeavours that require huge muscles.

I'm not sure how much a factor this would be at a junior level though, as at the younger age groups the kids won't have gone through puberty so the boys shouldn't have a testosterone advantage, but the pattern is still seen.

 

[evemccc]

I think there are a number of female, don't know why but is seems to be females more, tennis pro's who might disagree with that in later life. The pushy parent has definitely been a thing there. Psychological coercion.

I can’t remember who it was, but there was a decently well-known footballer (I think) who said that he didn’t actually like the sport he was playing and making a life out of, he was just good at it.

Then again Robbie Savage said he loved football and lived for football - and he also said there are many pros who don’t really like the game much, but they’re good at it

So I can understand that people with naturally born talent, pushy parents and financial riches brings elite coaching opportunities, which enhances their natural talent —- so I can well believe people are able to ‘make it’ in a sport they don’t really love that much

 

[Lord Tyrion]

I can’t remember who it was, but there was a decently well-known footballer (I think) who said that he didn’t actually like the sport he was playing and making a life out of, he was just good at it.

Then again Robbie Savage said he loved football and lived for football - and he also said there are many pros who don’t really like the game much, but they’re good at it

So I can understand that people with naturally born talent, pushy parents and financial riches brings elite coaching opportunities, which enhances their natural talent —- so I can well believe people are able to ‘make it’ in a sport they don’t really love that much

David Batty. There are some very funny posts by people who have tried to engage him in football chat and he just doesn't want to know. Not rudely, he just is not interested.

 

[Voyager EMH]

I can’t remember who it was, but there was a decently well-known footballer (I think) who said that he didn’t actually like the sport he was playing and making a life out of, he was just good at it.

Then again Robbie Savage said he loved football and lived for football - and he also said there are many pros who don’t really like the game much, but they’re good at it

So I can understand that people with naturally born talent, pushy parents and financial riches brings elite coaching opportunities, which enhances their natural talent —- so I can well believe people are able to ‘make it’ in a sport they don’t really love that much

That reminded me of Eric Cantona.

I remember Chris Eubank saying that boxing is barbaric and extremely unpleasant.

 

[Golf is fun]

I can’t remember who it was, but there was a decently well-known footballer (I think) who said that he didn’t actually like the sport he was playing and making a life out of, he was just good at it.

Then again Robbie Savage said he loved football and lived for football - and he also said there are many pros who don’t really like the game much, but they’re good at it

So I can understand that people with naturally born talent, pushy parents and financial riches brings elite coaching opportunities, which enhances their natural talent —- so I can well believe people are able to ‘make it’ in a sport they don’t really love that much

It doesn't even have to be sport, many parents push kids into fields they think will be high paying, like medicine, law, finance etc.. irrespective of how much the child is really interested, or enjoys the career when an adult.