How much do you think Luck affects your scores

the_coach said:
to be real honest it's more about folks making good or bad course management decisions
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Depends on what level you are, I know exactly where I want to put it for my next shot, its the actual execution that finds me knee high in the bundo with trees everywhere, or thinning that lay up into the hazard

Bottom line if its going 30 degrees right, my Course management plan is in tatters at my feet
 
Luck does have a bearing but for me the thing that affects my score most is putting, on one day putts drop on another the lip out.
IF you hit a 25 foot putt and it either drops or lips out is the one that drops a better putt or is it unlucky that the other lips out?
 
PhilTheFragger said:
Depends on what level you are, I know exactly where I want to put it for my next shot, its the actual execution that finds me knee high in the bundo with trees everywhere, or thinning that lay up into the hazard

Bottom line if its going 30 degrees right, my Course management plan is in tatters at my feet
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just my take but often times I find while playing with middle to higher index players the decision making plays into the swing errors, by that I mean the club chosen to get the distance has been a little ways optimistic
and the line chosen has also been a little ways optimistically too tight

which all tends to put more internal mental pressure belief of the success of the execution of the swing which in turn forces more 'swing effort' which plays into the swing breaking down so not solid contact so then stuff like the ball landing 'short' on a knoll and bouncing into the bunker guarding the green, or guarding the 'ideal place in the fairway bunker that kinda 'bad luck stuff'

for sure there's the occasional reversal of chance from a good strike but that in truth doesn't take place that often

my take there is a correlation between good course management decisions and "good" or "bad" luck
 
the_coach said:
just my take but often times I find while playing with middle to higher index players the decision making plays into the swing errors, by that I mean the club chosen to get the distance has been a little ways optimistic
and the line chosen has also been a little ways optimistically too tight

which all tends to put more internal mental pressure belief of the success of the execution of the swing which in turn forces more 'swing effort' which plays into the swing breaking down so not solid contact so then stuff like the ball landing 'short' on a knoll and bouncing into the bunker guarding the green, or guarding the 'ideal place in the fairway bunker that kinda 'bad luck stuff'

for sure there's the occasional reversal of chance from a good strike but that in truth doesn't take place that often

my take there is a correlation between good course management decisions and "good" or "bad" luck
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Agree entirely, the good shots are never luck, just skill😃
Good luck only gets mentioned when we get away with a bad shot!
 
Is there such a thing as luck? Surely if you have hit a ball, and it hits a tree, and falls directly behind it, then it is the characteristics of the shot yo uhave hit that have caused it to perform such an action, eg. The direction have you have it, the height etc etc

I don't tend to believe in luck...although it is uttered quite a few times in life. Everything that happens is a result of something...not 'luck' If that makes sense
 
What happens if you hit a ball and it's going at the pin then gets hit by a gust of wind and pushes into the bunker - bad luck ?

Or vice versa it's going towards the bunker and wind pushes it back towards the pin ? Good luck

Surely they can only be described as luck
 
the_coach said:
would tend to evaluate such circumstances as folks not really factoring in playing in 'gusty' conditions to the shot making decisions
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How can you factor in playing a shot if there is no wind at the time - guess ?

You can't adjust your line "just in case a gust happens"

What would you call for example a ball landing on the fairway but it picks up a bit of mud unnoticed which then affects the next shot - bad luck ?
 
it would be real rare you go out and have just 'one' isolated gust of wind through 18 holes - if it was just that then it's just what happened wouldn't think someone just turned a 'bad luck' faucet on

- it's more likely a day with both gusts and flat calm periods so folks would be aware of the range of possible repercussions of a shot hit - so should be an awareness to the shot that gets factored in to what is being tried to be achieved

you have to step up and make the best decision to give the best opportunity for a good shot outcome either way - would say it's about being able to accept the outcome through a range of outcomes that were possible ones given the circumstances

likewise a mud ball will happen given certain ground conditions then experience will point to the likelihood of the chance of it happening, or not, anyways
if no lift clean and place rule in play then again it's about acceptance of the outcome and dealing with the situation the best ways possible making the next decision the best possible

my take it's not luck or either flavor
 
Played on calm days when isolated gusts of winds have appeared a knocked the ball off line

And mud balls - "experience will point to the likelihood of it happening" ?! Seems a lot of words being said to try and dismiss clear things that can happen on a golf course that are clearly out of the control of the player

i got a massive slice of luck when I got my first hole in one - caught the ball a bit thin - flew through the back of the green , hit a tree and then rebounded back into the hole - what is that exactly if it's not a slice of luck in my favour.
 
would say that very particular circumstance is just the result of an outcome of a series of events

how it's perceived is down to who is doing the perceiving, not the event or whatever the outcome happened to be to the event/s - hole in one or OB and 3 off of the tee-box just 2 of a whole range of possible outcomes
 
It happens and you get bad breaks and good breaks. It's how you deal with the bad luck that can have the bigger impact on scoring. I know a lot of players who will bemoan the slightest bad bounce, mud ball, etc and then let it affect them on the next hole and rack up another bad score. At the end of the day, what can you do? Hit it, hit it again and keep going. When you get the good bounce, enjoy it and make the most of it.
 
the_coach said:
would say that very particular circumstance is just the result of an outcome of a series of events

how it's perceived is down to who is doing the perceiving, not the event or whatever the outcome happened to be to the event/s - hole in one or OB and 3 off of the tee-box just 2 of a whole range of possible outcomes
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And those series of events include a bit of luck involved and this case good luck with the ball rebounding back of the tree

success or failure apparently brought by chance rather than through one's own actions

Thats a definition of luck and there are plenty of occasions on a golf course where that happens as defined in the dictionary
 
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