How does your Club treat Competition B/Ball cards with current H/caps missing?

[2blue]

The 2019 Rules change the OP

Handicap on Scorecard Too High or No Handicap Shown
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Ah.... misread again.. Dooh.. 2019.
So am I correct to think that will mean it’ll be ok to have just the correct ‘strokes received’ on your card... ??

 

[jim8flog]

You make me feel guilty - I'm not that far on in studying the revised rules. And I'm being thick. How can not putting your handicap on a card affect the strokes you get in any way. If a card has no handicap on it, the scorer has no handicap to apply and can't process the card.

I am reading the new rule (for stroke play comps) as the handicap applied does not need to be in the handicap section of the card but if the marker has completed the card it will be shown and applied correctly in the summation for nett score and needs to be the correct handicap.

For most competitions we live in an age when the vast majority of cards are now processed by dedicated computer system which automatically applies the latest recorded handicap and it is only when a player has needed to self adjust that this will be wrong. There really is no longer a need for a player or marker to even do the summation.

 

[rulefan]

The 2019 Rules change the OP

Handicap on Scorecard Too High or No Handicap Shown
. If this affects the number of strokes the player gets, the player is disqualified from the handicap competition. If it does not, there is no penalty.

The important initial clause has been omitted

(4) Scoring in Handicap Competition. The player is responsible for making sure that his or her handicap is shown on the scorecard. If the player returns a scorecard without the right handicap:

• Handicap on Scorecard Too High or No Handicap Shown. If this affects the number of strokes the player gets, the player is disqualified from the handicap competition. If it does not, there is no penalty.
• Handicap on Scorecard Too Low. There is no penalty and the player’s net score stands using the lower handicap as shown.

 

[rulefan]

Ah.... misread again.. Dooh.. 2019.
So am I correct to think that will mean it’ll be ok to have just the correct ‘strokes received’ on your card... ??

No.

 

[rulefan]

There really is no longer a need for a player or marker to even do the summation.

There is no requirement now or in the future for the player to do any 'summation'.

 

[jim8flog]

The important initial clause has been omitted

(4) Scoring in Handicap Competition. The player is responsible for making sure that his or her handicap is shown on the scorecard. If the player returns a scorecard without the right handicap:

• Handicap on Scorecard Too High or No Handicap Shown. If this affects the number of strokes the player gets, the player is disqualified from the handicap competition. If it does not, there is no penalty.
• Handicap on Scorecard Too Low. There is no penalty and the player’s net score stands using the lower handicap as shown.

I am really not following your comment,

the second bullitt point says .... if No Handicap Shown... there is no penalty

are we interpreting this differently?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I am really not following your comment,

the second bullitt point says .... if No Handicap Shown... there is no penalty

are we interpreting this differently?

I’ll tell you what is happening - confusing the subject again, you are talking about next years rules which add nothing but confusion to the issue.

The question was asked about right now not what will happen next year

 

[rulefan]

I am really not following your comment,

the second bullitt point says .... if No Handicap Shown... there is no penalty

are we interpreting this differently?

Seemingly.

It goes on to say "If this affects the number of strokes the player gets, the player is disqualified from the handicap competition".

It then goes on "If it does not, there is no penalty." ie If it is a non-handicap competition or if the player is off scratch. So these are the only cases when a handicap is not required.

In effect, exactly the same as now.

 

[Colin L]

I’ll tell you what is happening - confusing the subject again, you are talking about next years rules which add nothing but confusion to the issue.

The question was asked about right now not what will happen next year

Only 4 months away from the changeover, I think it very useful to be looking ahead - and Jim signalled clearly that he was referring to 2019.