How does Scottish Independence affect the rest of the Union?

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Yep. The wall will get built up and the house will look as good as new. Pain in the arse but will get over it.

The neighbours will have a good deal more rebuilding to do though.

You'll be expecting the neighbours to pay for your damage and they might contest?

Surely easier to make sure that they have all the proper planning permissions and party wall agreements signed by you so that work is done in a controlled way with your agreement so that if anything goes wrong they are liable. You actually wouldn't just let them get on with it - you'd get your risk mitigation and contingency plans in place before they started.

 

[Val]

Of that there is no doubt

The attitude of some towards leaving the UK on here I thought was more in the minority - seems it's spreading so now I hope they get their yes vote and disappear and leave us to continue being a great United Kingdom whilst they wonder what will happen when their oil runs out and the fantasy of independence disappears and they are left with the reality that's it's not a rosy on their own as they thought

Don't tar us all with that brush Phil

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Don't tar us all with that brush Phil

Don't worry Val think it's quite clear that there is an obvious divide and bit a research this afternoon clearly points to a minority with the attitude towards leaving the UK:thup:

 

[Birchy]

You'll be expecting the neighbours to pay for your damage and they might contest?

Surely easier to make sure that they have all the proper planning permissions and party wall agreements signed by you so that work is done in a controlled way with your agreement so that if anything goes wrong they are liable. You actually wouldn't just let them get on with it - you'd get your risk mitigation and contingency plans in place before they started.

As far as im concerned they can get on with it and clear off if thats what they really want. Theres plenty enough skilled people fix any mess thats left behind.

Should the neighbours rebuilding not go to plan it would be massively embarrassing should they come back down the road cap in hand wanting to put our houses back together. Especially when there was no real reason to detatch them in the first place.

 

[Old Skier]

But as been mentioned - it will have nothing to do with you and your fellow Scots if you vote yes. We will call ourselves what we like.

And we will be free from those winging whining minority of wee Scotsmen who hopefully will at last stop being so insulting and very close to racist about the RUK. Although I suspect at least one of them along with SLH (who try's to sound like a patriotic Scotsman without the bottle to go back home) on this thread don't even live in the country or even the UK.

 

[Old Skier]

Disagree.Wales is a weird, alternative parallel place to the extent if it was just renames Walesshire and every facet of a principality removed, I actually think the Welsh would endorse that.They seem very happy with their lot in life.Strange folk.

Your an insulting little scrote at times.

 

[Old Skier]

Not immediately - maybe sometime in the future - why?

Not got the balls for that.

 

[Foxholer]

Don't worry Val think it's quite clear that there is an obvious divide and bit a research this afternoon clearly points to a minority with the attitude towards leaving the UK:thup:

Egad! All this money being spent on surveys and Phil sorts it with 'a bit of research this afternoon'!

Watch out MORI et al, your business is liable to collapse!

What was this phenomenal 'research' that you did? Ring up the 5 Mc/Macs in the company phone list and ask them - getting 3 Nos 1 Yes and a Don't Know?

 

[Sweep]

To get back on thread....
It should be remembered that Scotland is a nation of around 5 million people in a (current) union of 55 million. Much of it is very beautiful countryside and highlands, so let's not get carried away with stories of recessions and depressions.
Economically, it's debatable, but I can't see how it will greatly effect the rest of the Union. The much hyped oil revenue has to be considered, but then so do all the jobs coming south when all the big companies move out of Scotland
A new harbour to replace Faslane will bring in more jobs -if we need one for all our nuclear subs and the military will all just move south.
My companys dealings and that of others to Scotland may become more expensive to our Scottish customers if an export or import tax / duty is applied through Scotland not being a part of the EU. Currency transfer rates will apply if Scotland does not keep the pound and the banks will do quite well out of that.
Socially is probably more interesting with more anti English /anti Scottish sentiment, as we are already beginning to see.
Most importantly in my view, is the effect of Scottish independence on Northern Ireland. It has to be considered highly likely it will stir feelings among the republicans in NI and this could create trouble at what seems to be a very delicate time.
That also leads on to how places like Spain will view Scottish independence. I can't see the Spanish Central government voting to allow Scotland into the EU, considering their own issues with Catalan and Basque independence campaigns. Nothing to do with the UK, but worth considering nonetheless.

 

[Simbo]

Why would it not hold the same prestige ?

Sorry but Scotland going won't change the prestige in the name - right now I reckon the prestige could actually increase

Are Wales leaving as well ? Well that's a whole new fantasy that's not been mentioned yet

But as been mentioned - it will have nothing to do with you and your fellow Scots if you vote yes. We will call ourselves what we like.

This is the same contemptuous arrogant attitude that Westminster gives out regarding Scotland. Which is resulting in a lot of yes votes.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

This is the same contemptuous arrogant attitude that Westminster gives out regarding Scotland. Which is resulting in a lot of yes votes.

A long the lines of the same arrogant attitude displayed by the Yes campaign towards England

My post was in response to someone displaying that attitude.

 

[Old Skier]

This is the same contemptuous arrogant attitude that Westminster gives out regarding Scotland. Which is resulting in a lot of yes votes.

Should be measured against the contemptuos arragance shown by some on this site. If there is a Yes vote the problem iscot is going to have is they will have nobody else to blame for their woes.

 

[chrisd]

Has anyone heard rumour that if the vote is NO that England might have a vote to extricate itself from the union as we're fed up with a lot of the anti England attitude we keep hearing through this forum?

Anyway, if Scotland says YES it would appear that the Labour Party would lose about 40 MP's and it would mean that WE would probably get the party WE voted for and not a coalition with Lib Dems so a YES vote would be a Godsend (not that I believe in God)

 

[ger147]

Has anyone heard rumour that if the vote is NO that England might have a vote to extricate itself from the union as we're fed up with a lot of the anti England attitude we keep hearing through this forum?

Anyway, if Scotland says YES it would appear that the Labour Party would lose about 40 MP's and it would mean that WE would probably get the party WE voted for and not a coalition with Lib Dems so a YES vote would be a Godsend (not that I believe in God)

I haven't heard that rumour but there are rumours circulating north of the wall this morning that the Loch Ness monster has announced that it will re-locate to Lake Windemere if Scotland votes Yes. Sir Jeremey Heywood has denied claims that the Loch Ness monster was spotted entering 10 Downing Street last night.

 

[chrisd]

Sir Jeremey Heywood has denied claims that the Loch Ness monster was spotted entering 10 Downing Street last night.

That'd be that use lump Nick Clegg, he swims around in circles, never there when you want to see him and all his promises are myths!

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

And we will be free from those winging whining minority of wee Scotsmen who hopefully will at last stop being so insulting and very close to racist about the RUK. Although I suspect at least one of them along with SLH (who try's to sound like a patriotic Scotsman without the bottle to go back home) on this thread don't even live in the country or even the UK.

...without the bottle to go back home

I am married to an English girl and have English-born children. My wife is not particularly keen to live in Scotland and even if she was she would not move as she wants to be closer to her elderly mother in Derbyshire. So when we move from Surrey, probably in the next 3-4 yrs, we will most likely move to Derbyshire or South Yorkshire. I would certainly return to Scotland if my wife concurred - but I can't see it happening.

 

[Conman85]

A long the lines of the same arrogant attitude displayed by the Yes campaign towards England

My post was in response to someone displaying that attitude.

See that's you putting words in peoples mouth..................the Union would lose its prestige, you can't cut an arm off and still be a supermodel it's just common sense.

It's not a slant on the remaining countries! As like it or not, we are not as prestigious as we once were back in the glory days of industry.

 

[CheltenhamHacker]

See that's you putting words in peoples mouth..................the Union would lose its prestige, you can't cut an arm off and still be a supermodel it's just common sense.

A but cutting off a cancerous growth would improve the looks of a supermodel!

(That was a joke Scotland, don't worry. You're not a cancerous growth. Honest.)

(Ok, some of the YES voters may act like they are, but even they are ok, deep deep deep deep down.)

(That was another joke)

 

[Deleted member 15344]

I haven't heard that rumour but there are rumours circulating north of the wall this morning that the Loch Ness monster has announced that it will re-locate to Lake Windemere if Scotland votes Yes. Sir Jeremey Heywood has denied claims that the Loch Ness monster was spotted entering 10 Downing Street last night.

:rofl:

When does Hot Shot Hamish , Our Wullie and the Broons leave

 

[Deleted member 15344]

See that's you putting words in peoples mouth..................the Union would lose its prestige, you can't cut an arm off and still be a supermodel it's just common sense.

It's not a slant on the remaining countries! As like it or not, we are not as prestigious as we once were back in the glory days of industry.

All depends on the state of the arm and if it's holding back the rest of the body :thup: