How does Scottish Independence affect the rest of the Union?

[Old Skier]

interesting to see how many leave the country when you have half the country voting to stay part of the UK.

Half of them are here already. Strange that but as it's going to be such a fair and great society I presume they will be all back up north leaving many jobs so on a positive note more reduction in unemployment.

 

[Old Skier]

I find it staggering that the rUK seem to have no idea about the changes a YES vote will bring to them.

Just like those who live in Scotland then.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

For anyone who doesn't understand why the UK is great together then watch the Invictus Games

That's people from every shore of the UK showing the world exactly how Great and United we are

 

[Hobbit]

The UK's current trading deficit is approx 4.4%. rUK trading deficit without the oil revenue approx 7.1%. Interest rates would rise, which means everything would cost more, and mortgages would rise. A CU would buffer that to a certain extent, but nowhere near totally. Which means interests rates would rise both north and south of the border.

The (supposed) funding deficit for SNP's wishlist, assuming there is a deficit, would mean they'd have to borrow more from the banks at a higher rate.

Sooooo, in one respect NO currency union might be a better option in terms of managing post Yes interest rates BUT then there'd be the cost of setting up a Scottish central bank and currency...

Simply put, no one wins. But maybe one or the other loses more.

*Now dons tin hat and awaits the hysterical rantings of the Yes people, who can be spotted by their rose tinted spectacles*

 

[One Planer]

*Now dons tin hat and awaits the hysterical rantings of the Yes people, who can be spotted by their rose tinted spectacles*

:rofl:

 

[Dellboy]

It doesn't and won't as its going to be a NO vote by 3.5% (you wait and see)

 

[Deleted member 15344]

The UK's current trading deficit is approx 4.4%. rUK trading deficit without the oil revenue approx 7.1%. Interest rates would rise, which means everything would cost more, and mortgages would rise. A CU would buffer that to a certain extent, but nowhere near totally. Which means interests rates would rise both north and south of the border.

The (supposed) funding deficit for SNP's wishlist, assuming there is a deficit, would mean they'd have to borrow more from the banks at a higher rate.

Sooooo, in one respect NO currency union might be a better option in terms of managing post Yes interest rates BUT then there'd be the cost of setting up a Scottish central bank and currency...

Simply put, no one wins. But maybe one or the other loses more.

*Now dons tin hat and awaits the hysterical rantings of the Yes people, who can be spotted by their rose tinted spectacles*

Some yes people don't care about the negatives - they are meaningless

They arent interested in facts and figures about how everyone will suffer - they just want to be able to be on their own and make their own mistakes

Instead of Westminster making mistakes for them they want a Scottish Parliament to make the mistakes for them so they can feel pride in their own nation making the same mistakes as the rest of the world

 

[Doon frae Troon]

I'd expect it to be The United Kingdom of England, Wales and Northern Ireland.

Or just The United Kingdom, for short.... No?

How can you have a United Kingdom of one Kingdom

 

[Deleted member 15344]

How can you have a United Kingdom of one Kingdom

Have you forgotten about Wales and N Ireland then ?

The UK will still be the UK without Scotland

 

[FairwayDodger]

How can you have a United Kingdom of one Kingdom

Doon, if you and your ilk take us out of the union the rest of them can call their country whatever the hell they like. Your stream of consciousness on here is getting rather old.

 

[Dodger]

A weaker economy

A weaker currency

A one party rule

And if you live in the north an even greater divide from the south

The negatives are unthinkable, all you folk living in the remainder of the UK should think long and hard about what a break up may mean. We have just left 5 years of recession, we will re-enter it again pretty soon would be my guess.

Bingo.

You said it.

 

[User62651]

Maybe this appauling state of affairs between the have and the have nots in England will worsen as any remnant of a left of centre political party and better distribution of wealth disappear? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvpddmSCEAAjT5j.png

 

[Val]

Scots regiments want to stay part of the British Army according to their commander in chief

Scottish regiment singular now unfortunately. The Royal Regiment of Scotland.

 

[Val]

Bingo.

You said it.

As is everyone's opinion, a guess. I would bet mine to be a reasonably accurate assumption given the uncertainty.

 

[Val]

Just like those who live in Scotland then.

And post on here

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Have you forgotten about Wales and N Ireland then ?

The UK will still be the UK without Scotland

Wales is a Principality and NI is a province. England and Scotland are the only Kingdoms.

 

[Doon frae Troon]

Maybe this appauling state of affairs between the have and the have nots in England will worsen as any remnant of a left of centre political party and better distribution of wealth disappear? https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvpddmSCEAAjT5j.png

I find it quite mind blowing that England has 8 out of the 10 poorest regions in Europe, Whilst London sits, probably proudly to some, at No1 richest.

I can't see that changing anytime soon.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

I find it staggering that the rUK seem to have no idea about the changes a YES vote will bring to them.

The value of the pound should some sort of CU not be agreed would be a big worry
Trident and the British Forces.
rUK's diminished role in all World Organisations, foreign policy and spending, embassy/ambassadors etc
The role of the Royal Family
The fact that no one can come up with a better name than rUk for the former UK.
Towards the bottom of the pile would be the use of the words United Kingdom, Great Britain and the Union Flag.

My daughter meets many English visitors to Scotland and is quite astounded how arrogant and ignorant many are towards the referendum. Some even demand she tells them which way she is will vote.

^^^This

And btw - if a YES I don't think there is any need to remove the saltire from the Union Flag. If rUK wants to keep flag as it is that's fine by me. The blue can signify the sea lapping the shores of the country if you need symbolism - or indeed the blue sky above.

 

[CheltenhamHacker]

I find it staggering that the rUK seem to have no idea about the changes a YES vote will bring to them.

The value of the pound should some sort of CU not be agreed would be a big worry
Trident and the British Forces.
rUK's diminished role in all World Organisations, foreign policy and spending, embassy/ambassadors etc
The role of the Royal Family
The fact that no one can come up with a better name than rUk for the former UK.
Towards the bottom of the pile would be the use of the words United Kingdom, Great Britain and the Union Flag.

My daughter meets many English visitors to Scotland and is quite astounded how arrogant and ignorant many are towards the referendum. Some even demand she tells them which way she is will vote.

This is time for a famous quote:

"Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof"

There is absolutely nothing we can do about whether Scotland votes YES or NO. As yourself and Adi have reminded us many times.

So why on earth should we worry about all of those things you list above (a number of which are ridiculous and petty).

If, god forbid, Scotland votes YES, we will have to deal with them, as and when.

If you vote NO, then they won't need to be thought about.

I would much prefer the government to deal with the actual issues in the world, rather than try to predict what may or may not happen after the vote.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

This is time for a famous quote:

"Sufficient unto the day is the evil thereof"

There is absolutely nothing we can do about whether Scotland votes YES or NO. As yourself and Adi have reminded us many times.

So why on earth should we worry about all of those things you list above (a number of which are ridiculous and petty).

If, god forbid, Scotland votes YES, we will have to deal with them, as and when.

If you vote NO, then they won't need to be thought about.

I would much prefer the government to deal with the actual issues in the world, rather than try to predict what may or may not happen after the vote.

Maybe not - until after a NO the implications of all that is currently being offered to Scotland by the three musketeers is understood. And that little bundle will present it's own very significant issues for England, Wales and NI.