Her Majesty's Lot at it again

[ColchesterFC]

Unfortunately, Yes - imo! And Dunblane and others would still have happened too!

By the time (armed) Police get involved, it's way past the point where such events can be prevented - merely limited at best!

Yes these incidents would still happen but if the first officer on the scene at Dunblane or Hungerford or any other such incident had been armed and had shot the perpetrator dead then the scale should/would/could have been smaller than waiting for an armed officer to respond.

 

[Midnight]

Your armed enough with a club in your hand :rofl:

You know me to well mate😂😂

 

[chrisd]

You know me to well mate😂😂

You could snore someone into submission!

 

[Midnight]

You could snore someone into submission!

That's my backup mate😂😂😂😂

 

[patricks148]

as someone else said if you are a law abiding citizen and a police officer asks you to get out of your car, get out!

too many Cocky Oiks about who think they are above the law and authority.
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[One Planer]

as someone else said if you are a law abiding citizen and a police officer asks you to get out of your car, get out!

too many Cocky Oiks about who think they are above the law and authority.
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Is that aimed at the officer destroying a citizens personal property :smirk:

 

[ColchesterFC]

Is that aimed at the officer destroying a citizens personal property :smirk:

I think we all know that it's aimed at the cocky oik driving the car who refused to get out of the car despite repeated requests from a police officer. If you condone that sort of behaviour then you are part of the problem of lack of respect for authority in this country. IMO of course.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Is that aimed at the officer destroying an innocent, wrongly identified citizens personal property :smirk:

Fixed that for you.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

as someone else said if you are a law abiding citizen and a police officer asks you to get out of your car, get out!

too many Cocky Oiks about who think they are above the law and authority.
.

Unfortunately in certain parts of the country these are the types of people they deal with on a daily basis, that's why the copper should never had let it get yo that situation. He should know better.

 

[Pin-seeker]

as someone else said if you are a law abiding citizen and a police officer asks you to get out of your car, get out!

too many Cocky Oiks about who think they are above the law and authority.
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I don't agree that all police should carry guns,but you are spot on here.

 

[patricks148]

Is that aimed at the officer destroying a citizens personal property :smirk:

er.... no.

it could all have been avoided if the guy got out the car and had been identified, as requested.

i can't imagine what its like dealing with these yobs on a daily basis, no wonder the copper went bonkers, i would prob do the same

 

[One Planer]

er.... no.

it could all have been avoided if the guy got out the car and had been identified, as requested.

i can't imagine what its like dealing with these yobs on a daily basis, no wonder the copper went bonkers, i would prob do the same

Silly question but from what I could see the windows weren't tinted.

Why could the not identify him purely by looking into the car?

 

[Deleted member 16999]

er.... no.

it could all have been avoided if the guy got out the car and had been identified, as requested.

i can't imagine what its like dealing with these yobs on a daily basis, no wonder the copper went bonkers, i would prob do the same

What evidence do you have to call him a yob?
We don't need Coppers going bonkers when they are in the wrong.
I for one do not believe for one minute that's how he was trained to deal with that situation,
Maybe it's best to let the Police inquiry finish before we all jump to conclusions.

 

[patricks148]

What evidence do you have to call him a yob?
We don't need Coppers going bonkers when they are in the wrong.
I for one do not believe for one minute that's how he was trained to deal with that situation,
Maybe it's best to let the Police inquiry finish before we all jump to conclusions.

i'm not jumping to any conclusions, the guy was asked to get out of the car he refused, why would you refuse if you had done nothing wrong?????

i had a similar situation heading to Woodhall Spa a couple of years ago... i got out the car, they could see i was not the person they thought i was, apologized and shot off. if the guy had done this we would not be discussing this TBH.

plus i didn;t call him a yob, i said dealing with yobs.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

i'm not jumping to any conclusions, the guy was asked to get out of the car he refused, why would you refuse if you had done nothing wrong?????

i had a similar situation heading to Woodhall Spa a couple of years ago... i got out the car, they could see i was not the person they thought i was, apologized and shot off. if the guy had done this we would not be discussing this TBH.

plus i didn;t call him a yob, i said dealing with yobs.

But we don't know what led up to this, the other Copper recognised him and addressed him with his first name and told him to get back in the car.
Plus, read your posts you said "I can't imagine what it's like dealing with THESE yobs on a daily basis"
Have a guess who going to pick up the repair bill for the damage to the car? me and you and every other tax payer.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

All Coppers with guns would be criminal.

Imagine the amount of mistaken identity deaths there'd be?

They'd get away with it as they always do.

 

[ColchesterFC]

Here's how the situation should have unfolded.........

Policeman - "Excuse me sir, can you step out of the car please"
Driver (getting out of car) - "Yes officer, what seems to be the problem?"
Policeman - "Are you Fred Smith?"
Driver (producing ID) - "No, I'm David Jones"
Policeman - "Ok, thank you sir, you can be on your way".

Surely it's not that difficult to understand.

Or the alternative which is to behave like a complete dick and then complain all over social media when the policeman overreacts to your knobbish behaviour.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Here's how the situation should have unfolded.........

Policeman - "Excuse me sir, can you step out of the car please"
Driver (getting out of car) - "Yes officer, what seems to be the problem?"
Policeman - "Are you Fred Smith?"
Driver (producing ID) - "No, I'm David Jones"
Policeman - "Ok, thank you sir, you can be on your way".

Surely it's not that difficult to understand.

Or the alternative which is to behave like a complete dick and then complain all over social media when the policeman overreacts to your knobbish behaviour.

Ha Ha, so the copper overreacts and it's the innocent mans fault,
Maybe he was scared by the manner the copper approached him, none of us know if he was politely requested to get out of his car or if the Copper ran at him to drag him out as if he'd caught a murderer.
How many times have we seen traffic cops ask drivers for id while the driver is sat in the car.
If it was such a bad situation why does the other copper stand and watch?

 

[ColchesterFC]

Ha Ha, so the copper overreacts and it's the innocent mans fault,
Maybe he was scared by the manner the copper approached him, none of us know if he was politely requested to get out of his car or if the Copper ran at him to drag him out as if he'd caught a murderer.
How many times have we seen traffic cops ask drivers for id while the driver is sat in the car.
If it was such a bad situation why does the other copper stand and watch?

Nope, none of us knows, yet you still feel comfortable referring to the guy in the cart as "innocent". I haven't suggested that the policeman didn't overreact to the situation. Do you really think that the situation reached that point simply due to a policeman losing the plot or is it possible that the behaviour of the driver contributed to it in any way?

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Nope, none of us knows, yet you still feel comfortable referring to the guy in the cart as "innocent". I haven't suggested that the policeman didn't overreact to the situation. Do you really think that the situation reached that point simply due to a policeman losing the plot or is it possible that the behaviour of the driver contributed to it in any way?

The police statement said it was mistaken identity and no arrests were made, I take that as him being completely innocent in this case.
Coppers are under enourmous pressure, highly trained and one incident like this can do untold damage to the thousands of hardworking coppers.
Honestly, I have no idea if the drivers behaviour contributed or not.
I'm gobsmacked the copper is in such a state he gets a knife out to cut the windscreen. He'd lost the plot and if the situation was so volatile, why isn't the other copper joining in?