Her Majesty's Lot at it again

[Deleted member 1740]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-37396039

And some people want them all to be armed

Authority gone to his head :rant:

 

[SocketRocket]

If a Police Officer tells you to get out of your car then you should get out of it. I suppose this will be blown up to be some kind of racist incident and the 'Black Lives Matter' squad will close down an Airport

 

[Deleted member 1740]

If a Police Officer tells you to get out of your car then you should get out of it. I suppose this will be blown up to be some kind of racist incident and the 'Black Lives Matter' squad will close down an Airport

That doesn't give him the right to start smashing his car to bits. The copper could've injured the driver of the car with a shard of glass.

If he's not been stopped under the Road traffic act then he didn't have to get out of his car.

 

[SocketRocket]

That doesn't give him the right to start smashing his car to bits. The copper could've injured the driver of the car with a shard of glass.

If he's not been stopped under the Road traffic act then he didn't have to get out of his car.

Whats all that about. If a Police office asks you to get out of your car then you absolutely should get out of it. He should have considered himself lucky, in may countries he would have been shot.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Whats all that about. If a Police office asks you to get out of your car then you absolutely should get out of it. He should have considered himself lucky, in may countries he would have been shot.

You cannot condone that coppers behaviour.

 

[ColchesterFC]

That doesn't give him the right to start smashing his car to bits. The copper could've injured the driver of the car with a shard of glass.

If he's not been stopped under the Road traffic act then he didn't have to get out of his car.

But that video doesn't show why the driver was stopped and the article clearly states "It is not known what led up to the incident". If I got stopped by the police for any reason and got told to get out of my car then I'd get out of my car. I have no idea of the ethnicity of the driver of that car and it might be different for me as a white, middle class male but in my opinion there is nothing to be gained, and plenty to be lost, by ignoring a direct instruction or order from a policeman.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

But that video doesn't show why the driver was stopped and the article clearly states "It is not known what led up to the incident". If I got stopped by the police for any reason and got told to get out of my car then I'd get out of my car. I have no idea of the ethnicity of the driver of that car and it might be different for me as a white, middle class male but in my opinion there is nothing to be gained, and plenty to be lost, by ignoring a direct instruction or order from a policeman.

That still doesn't give that copper the right to do what he done.

I've been stopped twice recently and both coppers have been polite when they've asked me to get out of my vehicle.

 

[One Planer]

The fact the officer has been placed on restricted duties speaks volumes to me.

 

[ColchesterFC]

That still doesn't give that copper the right to do what he done.

I've been stopped twice recently and both coppers have been polite when they've asked me to get out of my vehicle.

Why not? None of us knows how many times that officer had already asked him politely to get out of the car before the video started. It might have been that the driver had already been asked 5 or 6 times or more to get out of the car and then the situation escalated and ended up with the officer demanding the driver got out of the car. Are you suggesting that if necessary the officer should stand there all day saying "please get out of the car, sir"? Or at what point after the driver refuses to get out of the car is the officer allowed to think there might be an issue and escalate the situation?

 

[Deleted member 18588]

Absolutely disgraceful behaviour and only damages the police's reputation making it more difficult for the overwhelming majority of officers who would never behave like that.

Apparently it was all a case of mistaken identity!!

 

[ColchesterFC]

The fact the officer has been placed on restricted duties speaks volumes to me.

Is that not just standard practise when an incident occurs and an investigation is ongoing?

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Why not? None of us knows how many times that officer had already asked him politely to get out of the car before the video started. It might have been that the driver had already been asked 5 or 6 times or more to get out of the car and then the situation escalated and ended up with the officer demanding the driver got out of the car. Are you suggesting that if necessary the officer should stand there all day saying "please get out of the car, sir"? Or at what point after the driver refuses to get out of the car is the officer allowed to think there might be an issue and escalate the situation?

Are you serious?

He should at least have assistance from colleagues before he starts smashing the car up.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

I hope he gets done for criminal damage, make an example out of him and give a 3 month stretch, just because they're police officers they too have to abide by the law.

Saying that, I wouldn't be Surprised if he gets away with it coming from such a corrupt organisation.

 

[Deleted member 16999]

If a Police Officer tells you to get out of your car then you should get out of it. I suppose this will be blown up to be some kind of racist incident and the 'Black Lives Matter' squad will close down an Airport

Mistaken Identity and no arrest made, so let's blame the innocent guy, maybe if the copper had got his facts right he wouldn't of reacted the way he did, nothing in that report indicates ethnicity and for you to raise it it's a disgrace.

 

[ColchesterFC]

Are you serious?

He should at least have assistance from colleagues before he starts smashing the car up.

Yes, I'm serious. That video alone doesn't show enough evidence to decide whether the police officer was justified or not in taking the action he did and I'd rather wait until I have all the information before condemning him. If it turns out that the investigation shows that he was unjustified in what he did then I will be more than happy to admit he was wrong, but until then none of us knows. It's a bit like showing a video of a policeman shooting an "unarmed" man dead without showing the build up to the incident where the offender was waving a gun around and it just happened to be hidden behind his body when the video started.

 

[SocketRocket]

Mistaken Identity and no arrest made, so let's blame the innocent guy, maybe if the copper had got his facts right he wouldn't of reacted the way he did, nothing in that report indicates ethnicity and for you to raise it it's a disgrace.

No, lets blame the Policeman shall we, how was he to know if the Guy was innocent at the time if he wouldn't get out of the car when asked. It's a disgrace that people want to blame the Police without understanding the full facts. You would take a different view if you were faced with the type of crap Police Officers have to deal with these days. Regarding ethnicity, did you hear the man in the cars voice? He was asked repeatedly to get out the car and he was saying "I have a license and insurance" What was the Police Officer supposed to say then "That's OK then, you say you have a License and Insurance so you can ignore me and get on your way, have a nice day Sir" Get real!

 

[Deleted member 16999]

No, lets blame the Policeman shall we, how was he to know if the Guy was innocent at the time if he wouldn't get out of the car when asked. It's a disgrace that people want to blame the Police without understanding the full facts. You would take a different view if you were faced with the type of crap Police Officers have to deal with these days. Regarding ethnicity, did you hear the man in the cars voice? He was asked repeatedly to get out the car and he was saying "I have a license and insurance" What was the Police Officer supposed to say then "That's OK then, you say you have a License and Insurance so you can ignore me and get on your way, have a nice day Sir" Get real!

It was mistaken identity, no arrests made, how can you blame the innocent man, you have brought race, black lives matter etc into it, disgraceful.
Let the authorities investigate and make judgement, instead you played the race card. Sad

 

[ColchesterFC]

The fact the officer has been placed on restricted duties speaks volumes to me.

Is that not just standard practise when an incident occurs and an investigation is ongoing?

Just re-read the article which say that ""as this matter is in its early stages, the officers have not been suspended or placed on restricted duties".

 

[Deleted member 16999]

Just re-read the article which say that ""as this matter is in its early stages, the officers have not been suspended or placed on restricted duties".

They have today mate.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/window-smashing-cop-put-restricted-8861942

 

[ColchesterFC]

Are you serious?

He should at least have assistance from colleagues before he starts smashing the car up.

Just to follow up on this, the quote in my post above about the "officers" not being placed on restricted duties seems to suggest that there was more than just the one officer on the scene so maybe the video doesn't show the "assistance from colleagues" that the officer has.