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does anyone know how to cure an in to out swing. basically as i strike the ball im slicing across it causing it to start straight and then bend off to the right, it seems ive tried everything to correct this but now im on the verge of giving this bloody game for good for other peoples safety. :D
 

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I think you might have the reverse of what your thinking. Normaly a slice is the result of an out to in swing, ie coming over the top and cutting across the ball.

I'm sure someone on here will be able to advise you of a drill to get you swinging from the inside to out.
 

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Easy !!
Concentrate on keeping your right elbow tucked in to the side of your rib cage area when you start your down swing. This will bring the club inside from the start allowing the in-out swing pattern.
You will soon be Duck hooking it all over !!!! :D :D :D
 

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I have the answer, the 3 ball drill. This works with time.

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This drill helped me to convert the slice/fade into a draw I hit quite regular now.

Just use it each time you visit the range. In no time you will be sorted.
 

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John, you have one of the most common faults in golf. Please please please go to your local pro and get an experts help before you end up with 35 cures in your head for each swing
 

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John, please dont give up. I struggled with this for most of last year but i'm now hitting a slight draw. Get a pro to have a look at it.

One thing in the meantime.... DO NOT START TO AIM LEFT!!!

This will just make things worse and will take longer to cure. I was aiming about 20yds left of the fairway last summer, meaning I had to hit a slice to keep the ball in play now I have to check my allignment cause i'm always aiming left still.
 

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Bobmac whilst I would never condenm the advice about going to see a pro, the OP only wants a cure for an out-in swing path (I think although he stated in/out) The 3 ball drill is the best cure without a doubt. If you check the video, it is a pro who shows it. If the O.P knows this is his only problem then I dont see the need to consult a pro on this matter. Dont get me wrong, I am no pro obv and I wouldn't dream of questioning other pro's advice but, the OP wants our help to solve a problem he knows he is suffering. The 3ball drill is the answer. If that doesn't work then I would recommend seeing a pro.
 

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I had a similar issue but having spent time with Rickard Strongert!, seem to have cured the problem by tucking in my elbow, as suggested by Barney.

However, this seems to restrict my swing slightly, and I don't feel that I am hitting shots "full" - thus losing some length with every club. Is this normal? Is there a "next step" I can take to rectify this. I wouldn't say I was a short hitter but would like to regain some of the (admittedly wayward!) distance I used to have.

I have booked some lessons with the pro, but since I booked in October and he has yet to supply me with available dates, I'm not holding my breath! (Hes not the most reliable of chaps!)
 

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You can still complete your back swing, your elbow doesn't have to stay in contact with your torso, just make sure your elbow tucks in towards your hip as you swing down.
 

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Good point Tony. The 3 ball drill is a good drill, although a tad dangerous on some ranges. I would suggest the target ball in the middle but have 2 long tees instead of the outside balls. That way if the clubhead does hit the tees, no balls will go flying around the range.
Another drill is to stand facing a tree with a small branch sticking out. Position yourself such that an out to in swing would hit the branch and try and swing inside it.
Dont let the green staff see you though. lol
If money is no object, you could buy the http://www.proshotsolutions.co.uk/faultfixer.html
It's not cheap at around £160 but it really will help you cure that slice.
 
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A simple but effective aid is to hit a lot of shots from an uphill lie i.e. have the ball above your feet on a slope. Normally you will hit a draw from this position (the opposite of the shape you have problems with).
This practice forces your swing to be less steep and gets the club coming at the ball from the inside.
After doing that for a while revert to a flat lie but try and keep the same swing feeling.
You can't do this at a range, you need to find a practice area with some undulations.
 

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I would make sure the basics of ball position and alignment are correct first and agree wit the advice about keeping the right elbow tucked in. A great piece of kit to help that is

http://www.golfonline.co.uk/longridge-power-band-p-225.html

which restricts the swing and keeps the arms working together. It takes some getting use to so I suggest using only a 9 iron to start with but it really helps with overswinging the club and flying right elbows.
 

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Just one suggestion , before you try all the excellent advice offered.Try to video yourself to make sure it is the out to in which you think it is.

All the advice above is spot on but just to state the benefits of going to a pro. the "think it is this or that" second guessing is removed and he will tell you exactly what it is and how to correct it.

And as homer says check the basics of grip,stance etc. you may be starting with an open stance or dodgy grip again the pro will be able to tell you.
 

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I have the answer, the 3 ball drill. This works with time.

Click here for Video

This drill helped me to convert the slice/fade into a draw I hit quite regular now.

Just use it each time you visit the range. In no time you will be sorted.

Are you on commission from Richard Tony? ;)
This drill seems to your answer to all swing flaws. :p
 

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Yes I have a pay per click to my paypal account.

As I see it Andy, the most common swing fault in golf is an out to in path. The most common question we seem to get asked on here is, how can I cure a slice or fade? The best video to help in this case is the 3 ball drill.

O and BTW, this one aint Rickard's :p
 

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thanks for all the input guys ive been trying to sort this out all day so ive filmed myself and my right elbow seems to be a good foot away from my ribs when at the top of the back swing and feels really loose like i have no control. so ive been standing in the back garden swinging a club and it feels loads better now and im hinging at the elbow rather than the shoulder if that makes sense.
ive also seen the pro at the club and he reckons my grip is fine but i dont twist my torso enough through the backswing so ive booked a lesson tomorrow to see what happens. i will report back with my findings maybe it will help another poor individual.
 

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Dont think that the elbow should be touching your side all the way through the swing. This is a great example of how the right elbow should be at the top of the swing.

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Although it does help to keep it tucked in on the way back down.
 

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Hi John,
I'm so please you have booked a lesson. There are lots of good tips here for you but it's best if the pro explains what's causing your slice. If you understand why you slice, you have more chance of curing it.
Hopefully your pro will explain to you why your swing path is approaching the ball from the wrong direction and the clubface is pointing in the wrong direction at impact. I'll give you a clue.........it starts from the bottom up.
I understand why the flying right elbow is a concern but look at the swing of Jack Nicklaus, his flew too, so your in good company.
Fundamentaly if the swing path is straight just before and just after impact and the club face is square to the swing path at impact, it's impossible to slice (unless you hit it out of the heal). What happens elsewhere is a secondary concern. If you dont believe me, ask Jim Furyk.
I will finish by saying that if you can just reduce your slice to a fade, you will be in good company.
The following players favour a fade when given the choice
Colin Montgomerie
Jack Nicklaus
Tiger Woods
Any questions? :)
 

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What your pro says seems a good comment, the only time I slice is when I don't complete the back swing, i.e. as he says not turning enough, so when you start the down swing it's from outside coming through to the inside = slice

just an opinion to add to the possible 3000+ swing thoughts :)

let us know how you go on
 

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ok ive had my lesson it seems that the angle of the club on the down swing was too steep so i was leaning back at the precise moment of impact hance the slice. so now im swinging at at shallower arc and the twisting of the torso comes naturally as does the follow through ending up in a good finish. it took a good 180 balls on the range to get this feeling natural but the last 30 or so balls straight as an arrow. but i cant put this into action because of all the bloody snow.
 
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