SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
Ah - misread - good. Though not much good on my track as our practice green is pretty darned flat.
Ah - misread - good. Though not much good on my track as our practice green is pretty darned flat.
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
It's down to belief and faith - those things that you're damned for having in another context
SwingsitlikeHogan
Major Champion
But what if your practice putting green is essentially flat? Ours is essentially flat - but many of our greens have big slopes, steps and breaks.
It's irrelevant if you can't put straight.
So whilst it's a skill set. And I don't object to anyone trying anything to help them improve. I just don't think something to improve your aim is comparable to a swing change.
You're pro must love you.
Ill happily pay a pro to improve my technique (or try to at least). But if he's getting cash off you to say (right a bit, right a bit) then he must be laughing all the way to the bank.
I know what aimpoint is for!
But people are saying it has improved their putting. They dont state whether that's stroke or aim. But that they have lowered their total putts.
So instead of trying to condescend and come over all clever.
Explain in to me how if someone has a consistent game tee to green wouldn't see their handicap lower if they're putting (total numbers) was consistently lower than before hand.
ger147
Tour Winner
You improve your technique yourself with the help of a pro, a pro can't improve it for you.
G
guest100718
Guest
I've played my course so many times I don't need to read anything...
chrisd
Major Champion
I think is generally aim Dave, but Aimpoint instructor Jamie Donaldson also helps with technique too where it helps with the alignment and getting the ball rolling on the correct line. They also do a speed section during the day and also measure players tempo and path. I still miss putts and let's be fair, tour players on the finest greens, miss something like 50% of putts from 12 feet so I still don't expect to make that many putts from that distance but I do read the line better and miss closer !
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The issue I have with aimpoint is there are just too many variables. A 1% slope to one person is a 2 or 3% slope to someone else. A slightly bent arm to one person is a pretty bent arm to another. I have small hands so do I use 1, 2 or 3 fingers? I'm fed up of reading on here about people commenting that the green speed at suchandsuch course is really quick/slow when I know the course and completely disagree with their opinion.
When I stand over a putt I can feel if my weight is being being moved from vertical. Nobody taught me this, I didn't part with any cash to find this out and it came naturally as I was learning the game. 'Seeing' a putt in my head before hitting it is the biggest aid to holing more putts. And it's free :thup:
When I stand over a putt I can feel if my weight is being being moved from vertical. Nobody taught me this, I didn't part with any cash to find this out and it came naturally as I was learning the game. 'Seeing' a putt in my head before hitting it is the biggest aid to holing more putts. And it's free :thup:
Fair point. But I think the point was clear. I'll pay a pro for help improving technique. I would pay one to line me up.
ger147
Tour Winner
And I didn't say I paid one to line me up, it was simply something he pointed out to me that I didn't know, and I bear that in mind while working on the things I'm working on with him swing wise.
Which should surely result in a few less 3 putts, and therefor total putts?
but the quote you responded to had gone off track. It had just been asked how people who rave about aimpoint hadn't seen drastic handicap cuts. Because most people when discussing it. State it's improved their putting. And say they take less shots.
My opinion is very much if YOU believe it helps. Do it.
hence why I haven't mocked anyone on here for doing so. I actually use my feet for slope. Not so much one finger or 2. But I do struggle to see break, but can feel it. I then just aim a certain distance either side based in feel.
Fair enough. I apologise. I read it as though it was an ongoing lesson. Which I thought was a little ott.
Of course thise hose little things are what can be as much of a benefit as the new swing mechanics.
Val
Ryder Cup Winner
:rofl: you're some man
SteveJay
Head Pro
And thats where a session on the SAM putting lab would bring results.
Whether you read the line right or not, using Aimpoint or your eyes or even a spirit level, if you aim 2 degrees off a flat 6 foot putt you will miss the hole. SAM really opened my eyes on my aim and technique - far more scientific, in my humble opinion, than all the variables at play with Aimpoint (although I accept that they are not comparable - SAM is about technique and aim - Aimpoint is reading a break, but if you don't have a good technique and aim, then Aimpoint isn't gonna help you
G
guest100718
Guest
well it's such a stupid thread.
I loved my 3 samputt lessons. The stats it gives and then the improvement in stroke you can see has given me so much more confiedence.
Still struggle with long outts, but much better 8 ft n under.
chrisd
Major Champion
There aren't many variables Gordon. My perception of a 1% slope may be your 2% but so long as you consistently measure it to your callibration then you have YOUR system. The fingers are for each 1% and certainly if the instructor says it's a 1% putt and you read it as a 5% then you'd be pursuaded to re calibrate. There are certain bits that you learn I have never heard mentioned that also help the correct read.
chrisd
Major Champion
I got much less from SAM than Aimpoint for similar outlay
