Groove sharpener ?

you keep saying illegal grooves,yet you cant tell me if the rules have come in for amatuer golfers,and is it ok to play with the older shape grooves,do you check on everyone clubs prior to playing a game with them? and what about someone who buys a second hand wedge how does he/she know the grooves conform,should we introduce a kind of drugs test for clubs,so after every comp you have to have your clubs scrutinized for legality by a professional groove guru,get a life,and stop moaning about something very few people really care about.

An honesty test would be more appropriate in your case.
 
untill 2 post ago YOU didn't know the legality,so what your implying is apart from you everyone else is a potential cheat and the lowest of the low and not fit to walk on the same golf course.

I knew fine well grooves were manaufactured to a set limit and the use of your tool would enlarge the groove. I dont hack my grooves to any size I wish as part of my cleaning process so my grooves will only deteriate with playing.

There is no potential in my implication if you use a groove sharpener!
 
The club will be supplied to you in a conforming state - either "old" rule or "new" rule.
If you tamper with it in any way that MAY affect the conformance of the club then the chances are you're breaking a rule.
By taking a sharpener to a wedge groove and removing metal/widening the groove, you may be returning the groove to it's original state. If you're really lucky. More likely you'll be increasing the size beyond allowable limits thus breaching a rule...

So if you're happy with potentially breaking a Rule of Golf then fill your boots - and have a think about it.
the big word there was potentially,how would i have known if the grooves conformed prior to me sharpening them if bought used ? and is anyone so anal as to check the grooves on a wedge of a high h/c player because he has hit a few nice shots,not my idea of fun/social golf.
 
lets all agree that they can potentially make your clubs non-conforming and therfore either used with caution or to avoid any issues not used at all :)

(glad I lost mine yonks ago lol)
 
if you take one of these sharpeners to the face of your Vokey, you have to be sure that, by removing even a minute amount, that the groove depth and width remain within the "old" rule. As you can't, unless your eyesight can measure to 1000th of an inch, then it has to be a bad idea.

nope, the rules state that modifications must conform to the new rules !
 
the big word there was potentially,how would i have known if the grooves conformed prior to me sharpening them if bought used ? and is anyone so anal as to check the grooves on a wedge of a high h/c player because he has hit a few nice shots,not my idea of fun/social golf.

The grooves, as supplied new, would conform.
After that it's anyone's guess whether they conform or not. The argument is that if you use a sharpener to try to return the groove to it's original state (Or to conform with the new rule - thanks BT) then you run the risk of going beyond the limits set as you are unable to measure them. The fact that you don't know is irrelevent.
If your ball is pushed up against a twig in the rough, you move the twig and the ball moves it's a penalty. So you don't move the twig, you don't run the risk of breaching the rule. The Groove is the twig - don't try to change it and you definitely won't break a rule.

The Rules of Golf are there to be played to. In a Social game, some aspects may be overlooked to keep things friendly and the game moving, But if you're playing Competitions then you have to adhere to all the rules whether you like it or not.

As I said earlier. if you're happy to break a rule then you need to have a long hard look at the reasons you're playing this game.
 
I have a few gouges in the face of my sand wedge from hitting stones when playing shots. Some of these gouges are across the grooves and others are parallel to them.

Am I a cheat until I buy a new sand wedge?
 
But I bet you take money off your playing partners who conform to the rules? Would you be happy to play me for money, if I nominate on the first tee which of the rules of golf I am going to ignore that day?

As long as I also had the opportunity to ignore the same rules (which all my playing partners also do) that is fine.

The grooves of my irons and the material of my driver head are irrelevant...in comparison to kicking a ball out of the rough, not counting shots and taking a dump on my shoes.
 
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