Golf rules we let people break - what is one you know of?

[Arthur Wedge]

Teeing off early doesn’t help slow play

Gaps at a club are there for a reason

If it’s 8 mins that means they expect that when you tee off the fairway will be clear and when you get to your ball the group in front of you will be moving away from the green

If you go off early there is always the chance you get to your ball and then you are waiting

It’s simple - tee off at your time

 

[clubchamp98]

Here is a table from a Pace of Play paper done by the US National Golf Course Owners Association. It's from 2008, but is still pertinent.

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Is that walking or buggies.
I’m a bit suspect of stuff from the US .

 

[clubchamp98]

Backstopping. Plenty of people who ask you to leave your ball by the hole rather than than just shutting up and letting you stand by the green for pace of play reasons.

A lot of seniors do this!
Had a debate with one !
I bet him everything he had in his wallet he then told his pp to mark it.

 

[clubchamp98]

Yup
The thing most are forgetting is 'take your time' is very often only said as a response to what another player has said i.e player A; do you mind if I finish...? Player B; "sure take your time"
This is a throwaway comment & not advice

Thinking on, I don't know that I've ever heard 'take your time' said as an isolated & unsolicited statement by Player B (which to me is advice) i.e Player A putts close'ish and goes to finish without comment.... and Player B pipes up with 'take your time' Never seen it happen

Agree I think it’s just an acknowledgment of his request to finish.
Although he dosnt have to ask once he’s started putting he can hole out as long as he’s not standing on anyone’s line!

 

[clubchamp98]

There is nothing in the rules that I have seen which changes this rule.

Could just be a COC but it’s enforced at my club.

 

[Bamberdele2.0]

The whole pick and place malarky.

You can pick and place anywhere on the fairway to around 6 inches - but if you are off the fairway you must put the ball back in the exact same spot after cleaning.

No one puts their ball back in the exact same spot. It’s always next to the spot and a little fluffed up for extra good contact.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

The whole pick and place malarky.

You can pick and place anywhere on the fairway to around 6 inches - but if you are off the fairway you must put the ball back in the exact same spot after cleaning.

No one puts their ball back in the exact same spot. It’s always next to the spot and a little fluffed up for extra good contact.

Pick and place in the rough ?

Do you mean and imbedded ball in the rough

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Pick and place in the rough ?

Do you mean and imbedded ball in the rough

We have this at the moment. However, if in the rough, you must drop the ball, not place it. Placing is for the fairways only.

Course is very soggy right now, you get mudballs in the rough as much as on the fairways.

 

[chico]

Teeing off early doesn’t help slow play

Gaps at a club are there for a reason

If it’s 8 mins that means they expect that when you tee off the fairway will be clear and when you get to your ball the group in front of you will be moving away from the green

If you go off early there is always the chance you get to your ball and then you are waiting

It’s simple - tee off at your time

One of my biggest bugbears. At my previous club the 1st had a slight dip on the fairway. After teeing off took maybe a minute to reach your ball and almost every time the next groups balls would start arriving just after you took your second shot.
It's annoying because immediately into your round you've got knobs right up behind you the whole round. I tend to play with my wife a lot and she definitely started rushing shots and not looking for balls in the rough because she felt she had to keep in front of them.

 

[D-S]

Pick and place in the rough ?

Do you mean and imbedded ball in the rough

I assume he means MLR E2
"When a player’s ball lies in [identify area, such as the general area, at the 6th hole, in the general area cut to fairway height or less, etc.], the ball may be marked, lifted cleaned and replaced without penalty."

You can have qualifying competitions with this in place, although it is recommended only for particularly poor defined areas.

 

[clubchamp98]

We have this at the moment. However, if in the rough, you must drop the ball, not place it. Placing is for the fairways only.

Course is very soggy right now, you get mudballs in the rough as much as on the fairways.

We have PL through the green in winter.
With no qualifiers or GP cards.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

We have this at the moment. However, if in the rough, you must drop the ball, not place it. Placing is for the fairways only.

Course is very soggy right now, you get mudballs in the rough as much as on the fairways.

Ah so you have lift clean and replace in the general area so the ball placed back in the same area , don’t think you need to drop it

 

[3 jabber]

I would disagree

It is slow players /player not keeping up with the group/not letting players through in front that causes bunching

I agree with

Eesat 90210 's analysis in post #48​

Feel free to disagree, you seem to know most things but there is a lot of research that proves you are wrong.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

Ah so you have lift clean and replace in the general area so the ball placed back in the same area , don’t think you need to drop it

Maybe just a club or local rule for us then. It's fine, better than hitting mud balls out of the rough. We don't have qualifiers in the winter so it's about making play as simple and enjoyable as possible in the conditions we will inevitably face.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

Maybe just a club or local rule for us then. It's fine, better than hitting mud balls out of the rough. We don't have qualifiers in the winter so it's about making play as simple and enjoyable as possible in the conditions we will inevitably face.

That’s how we do it in swindles , pick and place everywhere

Should really be in place for everyone on parkland courses etc

Or go to mats

 

[clubchamp98]

That’s how we do it in swindles , pick and place everywhere

Should really be in place for everyone on parkland courses etc

Or go to mats

I’ve never used a mat!
I might buy one just to have a go.

 

[Neilds]

That’s how we do it in swindles , pick and place everywhere

Should really be in place for everyone on parkland courses etc

Or go to mats

We have to be careful in our winter group as we have pick and place anywhere, the OOB drop in fairway rule and gimmees - but sometimes there is a stableford comp run by the pro shop at the same time and you just enter if you want. Sometimes you have a fourball with 2 in the comp and the other 2 not so play to different rules. Does make it a bit harder to win the group comp as you can be disadvantaged but if you were that bothered then I suppose you wouldn't enter the comp.

 

[Arthur Wedge]

I’ve never used a mat!
I might buy one just to have a go.

I don’t mind using mats providing it’s a good one

Just have to get used to it

 

[doublebogey7]

The whole pick and place malarky.

You can pick and place anywhere on the fairway to around 6 inches - but if you are off the fairway you must put the ball back in the exact same spot after cleaning.

No one puts their ball back in the exact same spot. It’s always next to the spot and a little fluffed up for extra good contact.

That all depends on the Model Local Rule being used. MLR E-3, may be amended to include all of the GA.

 

[doublebogey7]

We have this at the moment. However, if in the rough, you must drop the ball, not place it. Placing is for the fairways only.

Course is very soggy right now, you get mudballs in the rough as much as on the fairways.

There is no MLR that allows this. It should either be lift clean and replace (MLR E2) or lift clean and place (MLR E3), niethewr allow for dropping.