Golf Insurance (the small print)

Fish

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I just renewed my insurance with E & L, on the website form you have to name the items you want insured and state their value, I ran out of lines and so I just named the main items.

About an hour later I received a phone call as the DD is in my wife's name and so I decided to ask a few questions.

I asked what the declared value should represent, should it be what I paid for the items or should it be what it would cost to replace them?

The reply was "what I paid for them" and then he dropped his bombshell and said "and in the event of a claim, proof of purchase is required"!

I asked is the cover not old for new, to which the answer was "no, only the cost of what you paid and can prove you paid" and yet the website clearly states "including 3 years new for old"?

This led me to ask what if I had won an item or been given an item as a present or bought something a long time ago like my MP-52's and proof of purchased could now not be found or obtained?

He had to go away and ask the claims dept as he wasn't sure and believed at the time those items would not be insured!

However, on his return he said I would have to "prove ownership" of the item/s that were won or given to me in any capacity and what their cost/s were at that time, but to be honest, it all started to sound a bit vague and it came across clearly that if I had purchased something some time ago like my Mizzies and no longer had proof of purchase or I had won something and couldn't prove ownership, they wouldn't pay out, and if they did, it would be what I paid for them at that time and not [new for old]!

Sorry but that was the shortest renewal process I've ever done and duly cancelled.

How many of you believe you are fully covered because of what it says on the policy which in true reflection, it isn't?

Its not just the small print here IMO, its the lack and omission of information and what we persieve to be covered quite clearly isn't!

I'd start asking some hard factual questions of your insurers if I was you, like, in event of theft or damage, what value will you actually pay out and more importantly, do you need to prove any value? If its new for old, why does the old value when you bought the goods really matter now 1, 2, 3 years on?

I'm now looking for a new and less complicated insurer :mmm:
 

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Nearly all insurance is the same, they are sneaky with stuff like that and you only ever find out how good your company is when you have to make a claim.
 

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I went with Carrick & Neil and when I bought the G25 woods and the I25 irons I scanned the receipt into the PC and emailed a copy to them the next time I renewed my cover.

I'm with them and, over the last 20 or so years I've been with them, have had a putter & rangefinder stolen. On both occasions I got replacement cost & no receipts were asked for.
 

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Working in insurance I know how sneaky companies can be.

I always AWLAYS read all the policy, all the small print, exclusions etc. If there is any doubt at the point of inception, a call is made. I would rather pay a little more premium to make sure I have the cover I need.

If you want to, you can go to the Financial Conduct Authority (FCA) & complain. That is, providing they are stating they give a certain cover when actually they don't. They will then investigate your complaint & they will be forced to either change the wording on their website etc to give a more accurate description of cover or they will have to change their policy to give the new for old.....
 

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Working in insurance I know how sneaky companies can be.

I always AWLAYS read all the policy, all the small print, exclusions etc. If there is any doubt at the point of inception, a call is made. I would rather pay a little more premium to make sure I have the cover I need.

If you want to, you can go to the Financial Conduct Authority (FCA) & complain. That is, providing they are stating they give a certain cover when actually they don't. They will then investigate your complaint & they will be forced to either change the wording on their website etc to give a more accurate description of cover or they will have to change their policy to give the new for old.....

another insurance broker here and I do exactly the same.
 

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To be honest I mainly have my golf insurance for the liability cover
Some home insurance policies include personal liability cover when away from the home. I phoned my home insurer and explicitly asked whether it covered me for liability when playing golf, and they confirmed that it does.

As far as I can see, the only thing that specialist golf insurance uniquely covers is the bar bill after a hole in one. And that's unlikely to ever be a problem for me, alas.
 

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Some home insurance policies include personal liability cover when away from the home. I phoned my home insurer and explicitly asked whether it covered me for liability when playing golf, and they confirmed that it does.

As far as I can see, the only thing that specialist golf insurance uniquely covers is the bar bill after a hole in one. And that's unlikely to ever be a problem for me, alas.

This is what I am now looking into more, after all, specifically itemised items or personal items in transit to & from home are usually also covered through home insurance or indeed the car insurance, possibly! If this is the case, and liability can/is covered through home insurance also when playing golf anywhere, then even if its just a case of notifying them and/or building it into a home insurance policy, that has to be more convenient, cheaper and trustworthy than an independent golf insurer where their looking for a get out all the time and more than 80% of coverage may already be catered for in an existing home policy!!
 

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I'm with them and, over the last 20 or so years I've been with them, have had a putter & rangefinder stolen. On both occasions I got replacement cost & no receipts were asked for.

I joined based on similar experiences from a member at my place. However I knew from previous threads on here over the years that as per the OP, there are companies where this hasn't been the case. Whenever I've bought valuable kit, myjoys, sky caddy, new trolly, new bag, and the clubs and putter(s) I've copied the receipts and filed them online. I feel I've the best of both and while I hope not to need to make a claim, and hope that Carrick & Neil stay consistent and don't ask for receipts, they are there if they do
 
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