GM Top 100 courses

I notice that the distribution of the 100 marks didnt show the 'Links' Bias?

Do you just add on the extra 20marks at the end ;):thup:
 
Always look forward to the list coming out and the debate around it. I've only managed to tick off 19 but imo, I don't get the buzz from the course at Moortown and much prefer these to a number on the list...S&A, Ballyliffin, Portstewart Strand, BeauDesert, Wallasey, BOG. For me, it's the same with Nairn. The first 7 are amazing , but then once you turn back, (aside from the big downhill par 3) it doesn't really get my juices flowing.

Unlike most on here, I 'get' Royal Liverpool. It might not have towering dunes, but The test and grandure of the place merits it's place. I also 'get' why the Brabazons places so consistently each year. I played it in 2013 in the middle of Summer and quite simply, I've never played a course in better condition. The greens were the purest I've ever putt on and taking divots out of fairways seemed a sin they were so perfectly manicured. That said, Id much rather play the courses I list above.
 
I take nothing from these lists. To be honest, I have yet to play a golf course, even local munis which I didn't enjoy. Maybe I'll get more picky as I enter my 4th year of golf.
 
Just to add to this, our rankings are based on the below, which is why some course like The Belfry and The Grove have featured higher than the course alone may suggest in some of your opinions. You can read about all the criteria in depth, and the panelists involved, in our new issue that goes on sale Thursday:

Quality of test & design (35/100)
Mix of holes, character, does it reward good golf etc

Condition & presentation (30/100)
Tees, greens, different cuts of rough, signage, bunker quality etc

Visual appeal (15/100)
Memorable views, surrounding land, in keeping with its environment etc

Facilities (10/100)
Clubhouse, practice ground, changing rooms, website info etc

Experience (10/100)
Welcome, sense of occasion, value for money, do you want to return etc

Thanks, that's helpful in understanding how they are ranked. Further to other comments on this, I would be interested to see a list of the top 10 or 5 in each category. Any chance of that?
 
I'm sure other magazines have done a list of the best courses in various price brackets as suggested on here earlier and I agree that for some, these top courses are way out of their price range even as a special treat. There are so many courses that fall into more affordable price brackets which will also bring in many I imagine will be on the next 100 list into the equation
 
Top 100 courses.

Well my January 2015 Golf Monthly turned up today and I have had a spiffling good read.
there is an excellent piece on the top 100 courses which I am sure will have the purists arguing all day and night long.

however my post has nowt to do with what is the best of the best.

The criteria is based upon quality of test and design, Condition and presentation, visual appeal, Facilities and finally experience. There are 33 seasoned golfers who have voted for this list.

What i cannot get my head around is not one person has mentioned cost. Of the top five courses, the cheapest is the old course St Andrews (no5) at £160, with the dearest being royal Birkdale at £205 (no5). The last course mentioned is not even the dearest in the top 100. Eh, and people wonder why golf is struggling. Flippin Eck. Now don't get me wrong, and I have not gone through all of the courses. but there are some good deals to be had. Notts/Hollinwell is down as £80 a round but in this edition of Golf monthly a fourball can be had at the same place for £100. Now we're talking.

what i would of seriously liked to of seen was a top 100 as per described but something else along the lines of courses that charge from £0-£75, £75-£150, then £150 plus. Then a revised top 100.

Surely any course you play for the first time, you sit down and say "it was/was not worth it", yet this was not even a consideration.
 
I'm sure other magazines have done a list of the best courses in various price brackets as suggested on here earlier and I agree that for some, these top courses are way out of their price range even as a special treat. There are so many courses that fall into more affordable price brackets which will also bring in many I imagine will be on the next 100 list into the equation

Once the next 100 list is up, wait to see the debate really heat up.
 
Anyway Mike, it's about time you and Jezzer earned your corn.

What about a worst 10 courses in winter, get out amongst the plebs, flask, winter mitts on sludgy fairways in January. What most of us mere mortals have to do.........

More bog than B.O.G. (Boat of Garten). Make it happen........:whistle::whoo:
 
Always look forward to the list coming out and the debate around it. I've only managed to tick off 19 but imo, I don't get the buzz from the course at Moortown and much prefer these to a number on the list...S&A, Ballyliffin, Portstewart Strand, BeauDesert, Wallasey, BOG. For me, it's the same with Nairn. The first 7 are amazing , but then once you turn back, (aside from the big downhill par 3) it doesn't really get my juices flowing.

Unlike most on here, I 'get' Royal Liverpool. It might not have towering dunes, but The test and grandure of the place merits it's place. I also 'get' why the Brabazons places so consistently each year. I played it in 2013 in the middle of Summer and quite simply, I've never played a course in better condition. The greens were the purest I've ever putt on and taking divots out of fairways seemed a sin they were so perfectly manicured. That said, Id much rather play the courses I list above.


thats the subjective bit, you thought the last 3 at Nairn were not all that were most of the comments the club get are that the last 4 holes are the best,of course you did play off the yellow#s that makes all the difference even though its prob only 100 yards over those last 3 holes.
 
Re: Top 100 courses.

Well my January 2015 Golf Monthly turned up today and I have had a spiffling good read.
there is an excellent piece on the top 100 courses which I am sure will have the purists arguing all day and night long.

however my post has nowt to do with what is the best of the best.

The criteria is based upon quality of test and design, Condition and presentation, visual appeal, Facilities and finally experience. There are 33 seasoned golfers who have voted for this list.

What i cannot get my head around is not one person has mentioned cost. Of the top five courses, the cheapest is the old course St Andrews (no5) at £160, with the dearest being royal Birkdale at £205 (no5). The last course mentioned is not even the dearest in the top 100. Eh, and people wonder why golf is struggling. Flippin Eck. Now don't get me wrong, and I have not gone through all of the courses. but there are some good deals to be had. Notts/Hollinwell is down as £80 a round but in this edition of Golf monthly a fourball can be had at the same place for £100. Now we're talking.

what i would of seriously liked to of seen was a top 100 as per described but something else along the lines of courses that charge from £0-£75, £75-£150, then £150 plus. Then a revised top 100.

Surely any course you play for the first time, you sit down and say "it was/was not worth it", yet this was not even a consideration.

Those costs are the max mid summer tourist rates. 4 of us just played Muirfield for £70 each
 
Re: Top 100 courses.

Cost is relative to supply and demand. Take the old course @£165 (but also to book in advance in summer you need to play a 2nd course at around £80) however try getting on! There is no shortage of people waiting with plastic in hand!
 
Anyway Mike, it's about time you and Jezzer earned your corn.

What about a worst 10 courses in winter, get out amongst the plebs, flask, winter mitts on sludgy fairways in January. What most of us mere mortals have to do.........

More bog than B.O.G. (Boat of Garten). Make it happen........:whistle::whoo:

More than happy to do that as I have done on many occasions in the past and continue to do so throughout the winter these days!

Look out for my mention of Bridgend Golf Complex in the Feb issue's Golfer's Guide feature, a course costing a handful of pounds that reminded me of my time working at Horsham Golf Park in Sussex. Only Pyle & Kenfig in that feature on four courses close to Bridgend would make a noticeable dent in the wallet of any golfer.

Meeting with MikeH tomorrow, and hope to be back on here later in the week to engage in a bit of Top 100 conversation/banter!

Please go easy on me as I'm a little bit insecure these days following my switch from employee to freelancer and I do have two hungry kids to feed this Christmas...
 
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Re: Top 100 courses.

what i would of seriously liked to of seen was a top 100 as per described but something else along the lines of courses that charge from £0-£75, £75-£150, then £150 plus. Then a revised top 100.

With a top 100 based on GM's criteria, you probably have 200 candidates for the 100 spaces.
In the £0-£75 range you would many thousands of courses vying for position, all would have to be visited and the collation of all the data would take up the next decade.
I agree with the sentiments but the practicality knocks it on the head.
 
More than happy to do that as I have done on many occasions in the past and continue to do so throughout the winter these days!

Look out for my mention of Bridgend Golf Complex in the Feb issue's Golfer's Guide feature, a course costing a handful of pounds that reminded me of my time working at Horsham Golf Park in Sussex. Only Pyle & Kenfig in that feature on four courses close to Bridgend would make a noticeable dent in the wallet of any golfer.

Meeting with MikeH tomorrow, and hope to be back on here later in the week to engage in a bit of Top 100 conversation/banter!

Please go easy on me as I'm a little bit insecure these days following my switch from employer to freelancer and I do have two hungry kids to feed this Christmas...

Get your flak jacket on Jezz, I'm sure there will be lots of bullets flying ;)
 
Re: Top 100 courses.

With a top 100 based on GM's criteria, you probably have 200 candidates for the 100 spaces.
In the £0-£75 range you would many thousands of courses vying for position, all would have to be visited and the collation of all the data would take up the next decade.
I agree with the sentiments but the practicality knocks it on the head.

£0-£75 seems to be too wide. Why not start at £50-£75 where there are plenty of very good courses in that bracket, even in summer
 
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