upsidedown
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Matchplay, yup bring it on :thup:
GM Forum Championships 2016?
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pbrown7582
Money List Winner
IIRC correctly a matchplay comp very nearly got off the ground a couple of years back, would be interesting to gauge numbers and localities?
will be an element of travelling for most but if you sign up you know that's likely, and then the big problem after all the bickering that goes on is who is prepared to organise it?
will be an element of travelling for most but if you sign up you know that's likely, and then the big problem after all the bickering that goes on is who is prepared to organise it?
Travelling has always been the biggest hurdle with any national comp that's been attempted over the years, getting the initial starter regions right is the key, but then, as people win their respective regions they must be prepared to travel a bit further to what then becomes a North, South, East & West scenario, just like most of the established matchplay comps running, those winners make up the final 4-ball at an agreed headline course which then becomes a GM meet also.
I think what has to be done, is, the organiser/s simply state what the regions are (no discussion), those matches could played on a home & away basis with the score from the 1st match carrying forward, the winners from all those regions go forward to an again already stated N/S/E/W (poss Midlands) course (no discussion) where the winners go to the grand final course (no discussion).
I think the only way to do it is as above, no constant discussions on the courses and how far it might be from them, with it all declared at the start it's quite simple, if you fancy it, join in, if it's a problem, don't!
It's impossible to please everyone, the more you try to discuss it the more individuals you'll find it won't suit them, so it needs to be arranged behind the scenes and then presented to the forum to join in, as such it then just becomes what it is, a National Golf Monthly Matchplay Competition, simples :smirk:
Beezerk
Money List Winner
Is there not a way to self regulate somehow or do it like a knockout comp at a club (players arrange a game and play it when they can but working to a deadline)?
It seems a lot of forum members play regularly with each other so why not have one day as a knockout matchplay, they then get into the next round and play another winner from the area until you're left with a set number for the final.
Can't see any other way really as it would mean multiple meets, which coming from the North East are hard to come by
It seems a lot of forum members play regularly with each other so why not have one day as a knockout matchplay, they then get into the next round and play another winner from the area until you're left with a set number for the final.
Can't see any other way really as it would mean multiple meets, which coming from the North East are hard to come by
IanG
Tour Rookie
This has been mooted many times and, despite everyones enthusiasm for the concept, it never comes to anything because in practice the travelling involved is simply prohibitive for too many us. I hope someone proves me wrong by the end of this thread but I doubt it.
A workable alternative is an honesty based plan I've suggested before. A virtual matchplay knockout for Forum bragging rights. Entries in by mid-March, make up a knockout draw. Players pre-nominate on the thread the local qualifying round they're going to use for the 'match' and the best stableford (or nett - TBC) score compared to CSS wins the tie and progresses. Brutal enforcement of deadlines to keep the thing moving.
Probably needs a bit more thinking of the exceptions to cover all bases, but this does solve the travel issue and allow everyone to compete even if they are far away and it is easy to organise.
If folks were really keen there could be a small entry fee to allow the finalists to actually travel to have a real head-to-head final.
Sadly I think this is as close as we are going to get to a national Matchplay competition.
A workable alternative is an honesty based plan I've suggested before. A virtual matchplay knockout for Forum bragging rights. Entries in by mid-March, make up a knockout draw. Players pre-nominate on the thread the local qualifying round they're going to use for the 'match' and the best stableford (or nett - TBC) score compared to CSS wins the tie and progresses. Brutal enforcement of deadlines to keep the thing moving.
Probably needs a bit more thinking of the exceptions to cover all bases, but this does solve the travel issue and allow everyone to compete even if they are far away and it is easy to organise.
If folks were really keen there could be a small entry fee to allow the finalists to actually travel to have a real head-to-head final.
Sadly I think this is as close as we are going to get to a national Matchplay competition.
Junior
Tour Winner
Sorry to be the harbinger of doom but I don't see how a national matchplay can work. Great concept but logistically its a nightmare, North coast to South Coast, East to West, it will just be too far to travel once you get past regionals. KoK was hard enough and if not for sterling efforts by previous years organisers it would not have got off the ground.
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Rather than have a national matchplay comp with one overall winner a number of 'Regional' champs for the year could be achievable. If the will is there then no reason why it couldn't be an annual comp. Then similar to KoK day, organise a meet somewhere good where all the winners can hopefully attend and collect their individual prizes in the evening.
Liverbirdie
Ryder Cup Winner
If you use 3 hours as a general idea, it can be acahievable for most.
Firstly you get all the entrants in, lets say 64 - THEN you split into 4-6 regions. Most will live within 3 hours of each other.
They can play somewhere inbetween, which is only 1 1/2 hours away, so no big deal. However i would suspect that most regions people would mainly live closer to each other.
The final qualifier can either be split into 2 final qualifiers or one, once the last 4-8 individuals or pairs geographical locations are known.
With this the 20% will be bring it down - if people are willing to travel 2-3 hours to play others it can go ahead, but leave the 20% moaners to their own and do it for the majority, otherwise it'll never happen. Such is life.
I'd be happy to be on a committee that helps to get it set up, if required.
Firstly you get all the entrants in, lets say 64 - THEN you split into 4-6 regions. Most will live within 3 hours of each other.
They can play somewhere inbetween, which is only 1 1/2 hours away, so no big deal. However i would suspect that most regions people would mainly live closer to each other.
The final qualifier can either be split into 2 final qualifiers or one, once the last 4-8 individuals or pairs geographical locations are known.
With this the 20% will be bring it down - if people are willing to travel 2-3 hours to play others it can go ahead, but leave the 20% moaners to their own and do it for the majority, otherwise it'll never happen. Such is life.
I'd be happy to be on a committee that helps to get it set up, if required.
Qwerty
Tour Winner
My brain is Hurting after reading that mate.
Why don't we just all go back to York For a weekend. Much more fun :thup:
No committees involved, just beer and Revolving dancefloors!
Liverbirdie
Ryder Cup Winner
For plumbers, we'll write it on the back of a ciggy packet, you'll understand it then.
Basically if most have a max of 3 hours inbetween players (it wouldnt be for a NW one, as most live within 1-2 hours of each other, and prob the same for most other regions to be honest). Even then of they pick somewhere in the middle to play the match it's only 1 or 1 1/2 hour drive away.
Junior
Tour Winner
My vote :whoo::thup:
Qwerty
Tour Winner
Excuse me , Gas Engineer if you don't mind
Is that someone full of hot air :smirk:
Qwerty
Tour Winner
Val
Ryder Cup Winner
I'll throw my tuppence into this and if certain forum members get a tad upset then if the cap fits......
Lots will have ideas but dont want to take the lead
Lots say they'll do A and when A comes around they dont do anything
Some will like venue A better than venue B and will vent off big time if dates and venues to suit them
People who have no interest in setting things up will vent their spleen if it doesnt suit them
Some people will say it is all devalued if their is no scratch comp despite having no interest in adding anything to the party.
Further to the scratch part, some may try and suggest organising a scratch only comp whilst this is still being finalised. This really wound me up last year especially when it was apparent early on finals day was going to struggle for numbers.
As you'll appreciate, despite lots of help from many people I got my fingers burned a tad last year when I stepped in to help, im afraid i wont be offering my services again.
Lots will have ideas but dont want to take the lead
Lots say they'll do A and when A comes around they dont do anything
Some will like venue A better than venue B and will vent off big time if dates and venues to suit them
People who have no interest in setting things up will vent their spleen if it doesnt suit them
Some people will say it is all devalued if their is no scratch comp despite having no interest in adding anything to the party.
Further to the scratch part, some may try and suggest organising a scratch only comp whilst this is still being finalised. This really wound me up last year especially when it was apparent early on finals day was going to struggle for numbers.
As you'll appreciate, despite lots of help from many people I got my fingers burned a tad last year when I stepped in to help, im afraid i wont be offering my services again.
virtuocity
Tour Winner
At least you weren't compared with William Hunt :rofl:
huds1475
Journeyman Pro
Eloquent summary of the next 15 pages....
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Im happy travelling around playing at people's courses or even finding somewhere in the middle
Three
Tour Rookie
As an alternative idea, what about nominating certain dates and people just post their scorecard for that day wherever they've played.
All we would have to do is announce in advance of teeing off that we are playing, then post a pic of the card.
Obviously it would rely on a lot of honesty, but anyone could play anywhere in the world, as long as there's no money involved it could be a good bit of fun with no need for the time and expense of travelling.
All we would have to do is announce in advance of teeing off that we are playing, then post a pic of the card.
Obviously it would rely on a lot of honesty, but anyone could play anywhere in the world, as long as there's no money involved it could be a good bit of fun with no need for the time and expense of travelling.
Birchy
Money List Winner
At the end of the day people will all have their opinion.
People who want to play and make it work will do. Others will just talk utter garbage for a long time
People who want to play and make it work will do. Others will just talk utter garbage for a long time
