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[3 jabber]

A big problem for an organiser is when there are call offs close to the date and the club requires full payment. Many will sign up and pay a deposit, and happy enough or accepting to lose deposit if they have to call off. But the organiser is still on the hook for the full amount - should the call off be expected to pay? That’s tricky - and could prevent some signing up. I’ve just written off £70 from a meet I organised…ok with that I suppose as I recognise his circumstances were v difficult…but not going to do it often…

Maybe an answer is that the cost of call-offs is distributed between those playing. Maybe the organiser includes a call-off contingency fund in the original cost per player - and if the contingency isn’t required it can go back to the players; put in any prize pot ther might be; put to charity.

That all said I must get my H4H deposit and charity donation done for @richart

If somebody calls off they pick up any costs, not the organiser or the rest of the group. Not up for discussion. Why should I be out of pocket for some random stranger I've never met?

 

[D-S]

A big problem for an organiser is when there are call offs close to the date and the club requires full payment. Many will sign up and pay a deposit, and happy enough or accepting to lose deposit if they have to call off. But the organiser is still on the hook for the full amount - should the call off be expected to pay? That’s tricky - and could prevent some signing up. I’ve just written off £70 from a meet I organised…ok with that I suppose as I recognise his circumstances were v difficult…but not going to do it often…

Maybe an answer is that the cost of call-offs is distributed between those playing. Maybe the organiser includes a call-off contingency fund in the original cost per player - and if the contingency isn’t required it can go back to the players; put in any prize pot ther might be; put to charity.

That all said I must get my H4H deposit and charity donation done for @richart

Surely, if this is an issue, then everyone pays upfront. If they drop out too close to the time and the club has required full payment then unlucky, however if it can be refunded it is. Simple.

 

[Oddsocks]

Yes possibly, print magazines were definitely more popular when I was involved. There were at least 4 golf, GM, golf world, golf punk and today’s golfer. 2 of them are now no more sadly. I do think GM cutting the connection to the forum was a mistake as it was one of the things that set it apart and probably got some loyalty

With half the crap posted can you blame them?

 

[sunshine]

With half the crap posted can you blame them?

Have you seen the crap printed in the magazine or website?

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

If somebody calls off they pick up any costs, not the organiser or the rest of the group. Not up for discussion. Why should I be out of pocket for some random stranger I've never met?

Except often it is the organiser who is left covering the shortfall. The alternative is full up front - with no returns no matter what might transpire. OK. And for those whose lives are a bit uncertain around the date, then tough. You lose it all.

Btw…the suggestion of others splitting the cost of any no show/pay was simply in the context of a club only agreeing if numbers were X - just thinking how things could perhaps be made less stressful for organisers…stress of it all seemingly being one of the reasons fewer of us are willing to take on the organising.

 

[D-S]

Except often it is the organiser who is left covering the shortfall. The alternative is full up front - with no returns no matter what might transpire. OK. And for those whose lives are a bit uncertain around the date, then tough. You lose it all.

Btw…the suggestion of others splitting the cost of any no show/pay was simply in the context of a club only agreeing if numbers were X - just thinking how things could perhaps be made less stressful for organisers…stress of it all seemingly being one of the reasons fewer of us are willing to take on the organising.

Everyone paying up front is the only way of eliminating stress for the organisers, which is surely a good thing. There is no way that the organisers (or the other participants) should pay if someone unfortunately can’t make it.
Sadly, agreeing to pay and backing out for whatever reason is a risky thing to do, even if their ‘lives are a bit uncertain’ and, if they are, maybe not best to agree to play in the first place.

 

[SwingsitlikeHogan]

Everyone paying up front is the only way of eliminating stress for the organisers, which is surely a good thing. There is no way that the organisers (or the other participants) should pay if someone unfortunately can’t make it.
Sadly, agreeing to pay and backing out for whatever reason is a risky thing to do, even if their ‘lives are a bit uncertain’ and, if they are, maybe not best to agree to play in the first place.

Yup…would seem to be the only way.

 

[Lord Tyrion]

I was arranging an open trip this week for September. One of the guys said he was a probable. I told him he was either a definite, with payment, or he would have to arrange himself in another group. Anything halfway is just pandering and setting yourself up for a fall, at cost to yourself. Past experience has taught me that you can't be soft on this, you will come worst off and that isn't fair.

 

[IanM]

Yep. It's a tough as you allow. One of our guys had a milestone birthday recently. I organised a couple of days away.

The message went out, dates, hotel, courses and cost. If you're in send money by a week today. Simple. No other ifs and maybes listened to!

 

[Marshy77]

I was arranging an open trip this week for September. One of the guys said he was a probable. I told him he was either a definite, with payment, or he would have to arrange himself in another group. Anything halfway is just pandering and setting yourself up for a fall, at cost to yourself. Past experience has taught me that you can't be soft on this, you will come worst off and that isn't fair.

It's the only way. We have annual last trip, deposit to secure your place (none refundable) and then the balance which is also none refundable unless you get someone else to go who will pay you or offer an amount to go in your place. It's an almost guarantee that someone will drop out in the month before we go.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

If somebody calls off they pick up any costs, not the organiser or the rest of the group. Not up for discussion. Why should I be out of pocket for some random stranger I've never met?

Think it happened to Smiffy and his Cooden Beach meet with a forum member pulling out very late and Smiffy had to pay the cost on the day and cover the missing player

 

[IanM]

Think it happened to Smiffy and his Cooden Beach meet with a forum member pulling out very late and Smiffy had to pay the cost on the day and cover the missing player

That’s my memory of it.

 

[HomerJSimpson]

That’s my memory of it.

I seem to remember Smiffy being rightly put out and the forum member and him had a big falling out on here

 

[SteveW86]

That’s my memory of it.

IIRC the winner of the day gave Smiffy the prize money so he wasnt out of pocket.