General Play Question

[clubchamp98]

Thu=is isn't a fault of the heart of the WHS system itself but the way individual national authorities decided to implement the bit that they were responsible for.

But that’s like FIFA letting countries have their own version of offside in football.

probably me but I expected a World handicap system to be the same in other countries.
Its not much good if I wanted to play in a comp in the USA but nobody can attest my score on IG.

 

[Alan Clifford]

WHS is supposed to be worldwide or so we thought.
But someone from another country can’t attest your score on an app.
something not right there.
How long has this been going now.

On the HNA app (South Africa) there is no attester.

 

[Alan Clifford]

Struggling to understand the relevance...it's a world handicap system as your index is calculated with the same formula across the world, which was the point of the system

That is not 100% true. I know of three different systems to scale up a nine hole score to produce an 18 hole equivalent differential. No, actually four - I forget the American way.

 

[rulefan]

But that’s like FIFA letting countries have their own version of offside in football.

probably me but I expected a World handicap system to be the same in other countries.
Its not much good if I wanted to play in a comp in the USA but nobody can attest my score on IG.

Will IG recognise US courses?

 

[rulefan]

That is not 100% true. I know of three different systems to scale up a nine hole score to produce an 18 hole equivalent differential. No, actually four - I forget the American way.

The US combines the next 9 hole score with the first.
What are the two others?

 

[DickInShorts]

You can have your score attested by anybody - just get them to mark a scorecard(a non digital one) and then photo it and send it to your home club. If they enter it on the system the same day as the round was played you will get any PCC applicable.

WHS was not set up to work on proprietary software systems - it was to enable golfers to play against each other with handicaps calculated using the same methodology.

Nb - acceptable scores remain different across the world as does MLS being used in some but not all jurisdictions

 

[rulefan]

You can have your score attested by anybody - just get them to mark a scorecard(a non digital one) and then photo it and send it to your home club. If they enter it on the system the same day as the round was played you will get any PCC applicable.

WHS was not set up to work on proprietary software systems - it was to enable golfers to play against each other with handicaps calculated using the same methodology.

Nb - acceptable scores remain different across the world as does MLS being used in some but not all jurisdictions

What is MLS?

 

[Alan Clifford]

The US combines the next 9 hole score with the first.
What are the two others?

Before England Golf changed it's algorithm to the one in the Congu Advice document, it used to just use net par + 1 for the nine not played using the 9 hole course handicap. South Africa still uses that system. The European Golf Association use an 18 hole course handicap based on 9 played but in a slightly different manner to England Golf. With the USA method of adding two 9 hole rounds together, that makes four.

 

[Alan Clifford]

Nb - acceptable scores remain different across the world as does MLS being used in some but not all jurisdictions

Interestingly, if I play a matchplay in South Africa, I can submit it to my home club in England for handicap purpsoes. But not a matchplay played in England.

 

[rulefan]

Before England Golf changed it's algorithm to the one in the Congu Advice document, it used to just use net par + 1 for the nine not played using the 9 hole course handicap.

Is this the Guidance? I have issue 1.7 but can't see any reference to a change from net par + 1
Have you got a link?

 

[clubchamp98]

Will IG recognise US courses?

Well it’s part of the world!

 

[clubchamp98]

What is MLS?

Most Likely Score isn’t it???

 

[IanMcC]

You email your M&H Secretary in the morning, telling him/her where you are playing, and send a picture of the card when you are finished.
As M&H Secretary of a Welsh club pretty close to the English border, I get 4 or 5 of these a week.
No problem, but looking forward to Dotgolf getting their cross border act together.

 

[clubchamp98]

You email your M&H Secretary in the morning, telling him/her where you are playing, and send a picture of the card when you are finished.
As M&H Secretary of a Welsh club pretty close to the English border, I get 4 or 5 of these a week.
No problem, but looking forward to Dotgolf getting their cross border act together.

I just assumed a cross border scoring system would have been there from the start in a World System.
Just shows you should never assume anything.

Must be similar to the World Series Baseball that only takes place in America,

 

[Deleted member 15717]

But nobody can attest your score unless they have the IG ap.



these two posts seem to contradict each other.

not really, you’re just being obtuse as you obviously don’t like WHS.

 

[KenL]

Pal of mine (Scottish golfer) has scores from USA that I believe he did on the Scottish Golf app.

 

[clubchamp98]

not really, you’re just being obtuse as you obviously don’t like WHS.

Not really ??
yes they do.

I think WHS is fine ! It’s just the way it’s been implemented.

 

[jim8flog]

But nobody can attest your score unless they have the IG ap.

I did a GP score recently without realising my mate did not have the app.

The card was given in to the office and about a week later the score appeared on my record having been confirmed by the office after my request for them to put it on the WHS platform.

What annoyed me was they have a video on YouTube saying the card just has to photoed.

 

[Crazyface]

Thu=is isn't a fault of the heart of the WHS system itself but the way individual national authorities decided to implement the bit that they were responsible for.

And there is the problem, in print. As usual, no one has the doodahs to put one system in place for everyone worldwide. Lets just give them something to placate them and make it a complete load of conkers. Still, it gives us summat to rant about.

 

[clubchamp98]

I did a GP score recently without realising my mate did not have the app.

The card was given in to the office and about a week later the score appeared on my record having been confirmed by the office after my request for them to put it on the WHS platform.

What annoyed me was they have a video on YouTube saying the card just has to photoed.

Our do .
we Don’t do physical cards anymore once you photo it I just put it in the bin.