Football World Cup Draw For Brazil 2014

[El Bandito]

Not a football fan and a Scotland supporter but I could see England get out of this group. My wife is Italian, so perfect world for me will be a draw first up! I would like to see England do well, it does seem to lift the whole country.

 

[FairwayDodger]

It is an unfortunate fact that in Scotland some supporters of the Rangers (Sevco) and Celtic have zero interest in the Scotland national team - an attitude that is fortunately pretty much limited to the support of these two teams. But then again I am not sure whether the TA would welcome these supporters into their ranks unless true and absolute signs of them having had an epiphany were presented - and for that to happen I suspect hell would have first frozen over (which would be OK as the ice would keep them where they belong )

Is it indeed?

I've never met a (Scottish) rangers supporter who didn't support Scotland. I knew one Celtic fan who said he'd support Ireland if they were playing Scotland but I doubt his views were typical and I believe he was supporting Scotland against all other countries.

Of course I haven't met them all.......

 

[FairwayDodger]

I do believe this thread is about the World Cup draw and not a thread about a poster.

I also believe the forum has mods - if people have a problem with what I post then inform them as opposed to bitchy about me in a thread like a bunch of women

Are you on a mission to piss off everyone on the forum?

 

[FairwayDodger]

Could have been easier (see France) but could also have been much worse. The "group of mediocrity" really. England should be able to secure one of the top two spots there, surely?

 

[Deleted member 15344]

But, just as you're entitled to say it how it is for you we are entitled too and I suspect that you didn't "serve your country" but simply "took the wages" just like your Liverpool players do. It us the national team players who serve their country and don't pick up 50 grand a week for doing so that I think deserve support as they are out there playing for you, me and everyone whose English just as SILH boys are for Scotland.

Sorry Chris but that post has confused me a little bit ?

Just to clarify that are saying that military people don't serve their country but just "pick up a wage"

And it's actually England players that serve their country ? You including yourself in that which is confusion for do you mean fans.

Also didn't the England players threaten to not play a couple years back because they wanted a bigger bonus whilst playing at the World Cup. Think it was around 100-150 grand a person bonus at Euro 2012.

 

[User20205]

Sorry Chris but that post has confused me a little bit ?

Just to clarify that are saying that military people don't serve their country but just "pick up a wage"

And it's actually England players that serve their country ? You including yourself in that which is confusion for do you mean fans.

Also didn't the England players threaten to not play a couple years back because they wanted a bigger bonus whilst playing at the World Cup. Think it was around 100-150 grand a person bonus at Euro 2012.

I think the point chris is making, is that a true test of patriotism is supporting the national team through thick and thin. Irrespective of personnel.

A soldier may be patriotic, but his motivations may be clouded by salary. A true test is unconditional support, sounds like you may not qualify on this

I'd be interested in your view on FD's post. You're quick to accuse someone of sexism on a different thread, what happenend on this one?

 

[chrisd]

What I am saying is that some people in the military will be just doing it for the money, after all it's unreasonable to think that everyone joins up based on their overriding loyalty to queen and country. Players play for their country because it is, or at least should be, the pinnacle to aim for in their career. I support my country's sport over my team because I feel that the national good is far more important than a self centered interest that a bunch of foriegners pulling on a shirt, purely for the money, is.

You seem to confuse hatred of other teams to be a personal hatred of individual footballers. I have stated that I also loath Man U -largely because of Ferguson and his ways, albeit successful, in the way that he bullied, and back years ago when his teams with Ince, Robson, Keane etc could kick lumps out of everyone but all swarm round the ref to complain when anyone had the temerity to touch them.

The trouble here Phil is that your postings on a variety of subjects is very adversorial and you always appear to take the opposite view to the norm and as Fairway says - "on a mission to piss people off"

I don't care whether you support the national team or not but if people like you in football had their way there wouldn't be a World Cup or European Championship and all we'd gave is a bunch of foreigners pretending to be die hard Liverpool lovers until Spurs offer them more money!

 

[3offTheTee]

What I am saying is that some people in the military will be just doing it for the money, after all it's unreasonable to think that everyone joins up based on their overriding loyalty to queen and country. Players play for their country because it is, or at least should be, the pinnacle to aim for in their career. I support my country's sport over my team because I feel that the national good is far more important than a self centered interest that a bunch of foriegners pulling on a shirt, purely for the money, is.

You seem to confuse hatred of other teams to be a personal hatred of individual footballers. I have stated that I also loath Man U -largely because of Ferguson and his ways, albeit successful, in the way that he bullied, and back years ago when his teams with Ince, Robson, Keane etc could kick lumps out of everyone but all swarm round the ref to complain when anyone had the temerity to touch them.

The trouble here Phil is that your postings on a variety of subjects is very adversorial and you always appear to take the opposite view to the norm and as Fairway says - "on a mission to piss people off"

I don't care whether you support the national team or not but if people like you in football had their way there wouldn't be a World Cup or European Championship and all we'd gave is a bunch of foreigners pretending to be die hard Liverpool lovers until Spurs offer them more money!

I have followed this post with interest and agree wholeheartedly with your comments Sir. You have spoken with common sense and in a logical and concise manner. Well done.

 

[chrisd]

I have followed this post with interest and agree wholeheartedly with your comments Sir. You have spoken with common sense and in a logical and concise manner. Well done.

Thanks ...... Can I use this as a reference when looking for a job? :whoo:

 

[hovis]

I just saw this thread and thought " 15 pages of the world cup draw?" then I see once again liverpool phil is at the centre of it!!!!

 

[hovis]

When you say Served your country I'm guessing Mc Ds/KFC drive through??? I'm basing this purely on the rubbish you write on the forum.
No offence to Mc Ds/KFC employees:thup:

Ouch!!!!!

 

[Pin-seeker]

Ouch!!!!!

Harsh but fair mate.

 

[hovis]

Harsh but fair mate.

It made me laugh

 

[stevie_r]

Important World Cup stuff, the excel 'wall chart' is here:

http://soccerwallcharts.com/downloads.html

All scores to be faithfully entered, until we go out (in the knock out stages) when I will probably lose interest.

 

[Dodger]

Are they out yet?

 

[bluewolf]

Are they out yet?

Nope. Still just your lads.

 

[Dodger]

Nope. Still just your lads.

Part of the masterplan.Too expensive a trip so we are waiting for the next one which is in errrrr Russia.

 

[MegaSteve]

Right now I believe England have as much chance of winning as anybody else...

Might have to review that nearer the time but right now I still believe....

 

[JCW]

I love football - massive Liverpool fan who has seen players go away on international duty for England and come back injured and not be able to play for the club who pay his wages, meaningless friendliest that disrupt club football ( that's not just England ). The sooner England get knocked out the longer rest in the summer players like Gerrard and Johnson get. Club before country every single time. The negativity towards the national team isn't a rare thing around Liverpool.

There is me thinking you are an Everton fan, What we need is just at the end of the season in a training match for one off the Liverpool players to tackle suearz real hard and break his teeth then we be fine as Uruguay`s attack in the world cup will have no teeth , job done .......................EYG

 

[bluewolf]

Part of the masterplan.Too expensive a trip so we are waiting for the next one which is in errrrr Russia.

At least the climate problem that the Euro teams are going to suffer with won't be a problem for you Scot boys in Russia.