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Fiona Bruce Question Time

CliveW said:
So why the debate? The public aren't voting for a party either, it is only members of the Conservative party who are voting.
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Tottaly agree .
It’s like Eastenders though if you don’t like it don’t watch.
It’s on for the conservative members, the BBC love a minority audience.
 
clubchamp98 said:
I would say your 50% correct.
But parents didn’t shut all the youth clubs and get rid of the Police officers.
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These people stabbing others to death aren't doing it due to a lack of table tennis and even if you doubled the number of police it wouldn't stop it, police cant arrest the problem away. I believe it's due to the breakdown of the family unit and values, many of these young men don't have a fathers at home, they have been raised by mothers who have balanced work, putting bread on the table and raising children alone. It's been getting worse over the last thirty years and isn't a Tory problem.

Those women on QT were blaming everything on austerity and the Government but they need to look closer to home, this is not happening everywhere it's prevalent in certain cultures. They can't expect others to change it, they need to look inwards and work out what's gone wrong.
 
SocketRocket said:
These people stabbing others to death aren't doing it due to a lack of table tennis and even if you doubled the number of police it wouldn't stop it, police cant arrest the problem away. I believe it's due to the breakdown of the family unit and values, many of these young men don't have a fathers at home, they have been raised by mothers who have balanced work, putting bread on the table and raising children alone. It's been getting worse over the last thirty years and isn't a Tory problem.

Those women on QT were blaming everything on austerity and the Government but they need to look closer to home, this is not happening everywhere it's prevalent in certain cultures. They can't expect others to change it, they need to look inwards and work out what's gone wrong.
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The war on drugs has failed.
But you can’t say the government have nothing to do with this .
Gangs are ruling parts of uk cities that’s not the mothers fault.
I never mentioned Tory’s I said government.
 
clubchamp98 said:
The war on drugs has failed.
But you can’t say the government have nothing to do with this .
Gangs are ruling parts of uk cities that’s not the mothers fault.
I never mentioned Tory’s I said government.
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The discussion was referring to some women on QT who were blaming the goverment for police cuts and austerity that has created a culture where their children were being stabbed to death. My point is that they are wrong in their accusations. The Drug War is a worldwide problem and cannot be blamed on the UK government, the main issue is that some prefer to earn a living by supplying drugs and are prepared to kill to protect their filthy trade.

These gangs have similar cultural roots where gangs and drugs are a central component in their lives. Why? Answer me that! But I tell you its nothing to do with youth clubs.
 
SocketRocket said:
The discussion was referring to some women on QT who were blaming the goverment for police cuts and austerity that has created a culture where their children were being stabbed to death. My point is that they are wrong in their accusations. The Drug War is a worldwide problem and cannot be blamed on the UK government, the main issue is that some prefer to earn a living by supplying drugs and are prepared to kill to protect their filthy trade.

These gangs have similar cultural roots where gangs and drugs are a central component in their lives. Why? Answer me that! But I tell you its nothing to do with youth clubs.
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Yes and I do agree with most of what you say .
But if you think what the government of both colours have done over the years dosnt have a bearing on what happens on the streets then we won’t agree..
If youths have nowhere to go then they will be drawn into gangs.
 
clubchamp98 said:
Yes and I do agree with most of what you say .
But if you think what the government of both colours have done over the years dosnt have a bearing on what happens on the streets then we won’t agree..
If youths have nowhere to go then they will be drawn into gangs.
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Youths have places to go but its not cool to go there. Most youths would not get involved in knife crime, Imo its a cultural problem and the root of the problem is related to the breakdown of the family unit.
 
SocketRocket said:
Those women want to blame everything on the government and take no responsibility for their offspring behaviour. Parents are the ones responsible.
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If Those two women have raised their kids with the same 'blame everyone' else attitude they will only need to look in a mirror to see the origin of the problem.
 
SocketRocket said:
Youths have places to go but its not cool to go there. Most youths would not get involved in knife crime, Imo its a cultural problem and the root of the problem is related to the breakdown of the family unit.
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I don't dispute where the crime comes from but it is the govt's responsibility to provide the necessary resources to fight the genie once its out of the bottle.
 
SocketRocket said:
Youths have places to go but its not cool to go there. Most youths would not get involved in knife crime, Imo its a cultural problem and the root of the problem is related to the breakdown of the family unit.
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One example .
Council havnt cut the grass in the park in my road for months.
They just cut the first six foot around the paths.
So the lads hanging around playing football on street corners causing problems are the ones who would be playing football in the park.
But they can’t because the grass is two foot high..

So a group of parents got together to cut the grass and were threatened with prosecution by the very same council that hadn’t done their job.
Health and Safety.
Reason they havnt got the money to cut the grass.
Austerity apparently.
 
clubchamp98 said:
One example .
Council havnt cut the grass in the park in my road for months.
They just cut the first six foot around the paths.
So the lads hanging around playing football on street corners causing problems are the ones who would be playing football in the park.
But they can’t because the grass is two foot high..

So a group of parents got together to cut the grass and were threatened with prosecution by the very same council that hadn’t done their job.
Health and Safety.
Reason they havnt got the money to cut the grass.
Austerity apparently.
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I agree with most of what you say but there is also a lot of wasted money in local councils. The park at the end of our road has a path through the middle of it. One side is the responsibility of one council and the other side is the responsibility of another. The council allows for the grass to be cut 6 times a year. So the guy turns up to cut the grass and cuts one side of the path. He's not allowed to cut the other side as it's not part of his job. A few days or a week later a different guy turns up to cut the other side of the path. Why don't the two councils speak to each other and say "Look, this is a waste of time and money. This time our guy will go and cut the whole area and next month your guy can do it"? Yes, it would take them an extra hour or so to cut the grass the other side as well but equally it would save them that same amount of time the next time it's due when they don't have to do it.
 
ColchesterFC said:
I agree with most of what you say but there is also a lot of wasted money in local councils. The park at the end of our road has a path through the middle of it. One side is the responsibility of one council and the other side is the responsibility of another. The council allows for the grass to be cut 6 times a year. So the guy turns up to cut the grass and cuts one side of the path. He's not allowed to cut the other side as it's not part of his job. A few days or a week later a different guy turns up to cut the other side of the path. Why don't the two councils speak to each other and say "Look, this is a waste of time and money. This time our guy will go and cut the whole area and next month your guy can do it"? Yes, it would take them an extra hour or so to cut the grass the other side as well but equally it would save them that same amount of time the next time it's due when they don't have to do it.
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That’s just typical of local government no common sense.
 
Hobbit said:
I don't dispute where the crime comes from but it is the govt's responsibility to provide the necessary resources to fight the genie once its out of the bottle.
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I agree. My point is getting more Police won't stop the crime, it will only help apprehend and charge the culprits. I may be wrong but it seems to me that wherever a culture exists of absent Fathers this type of crime is more likely to exist. I dont have an answer on how to deal with it though.
 
Many years ago I did an advanced medical attendants course at Mansfield mines rescue centre, early 1990's. The police came and showed us drugs, and what they were mixed with. I asked a question, " is there a direct connection between drugs and crime". The copper said " unquestionably, how do you otherwise fund a £500 a week habit". Yet at that time the government would not accept there was a link for years. People were turning to theft, prostitution etc etc to fund there habits.
Roll on years later, Theresa May is despised by the Police for being responsible for massive police cuts. Would that make a difference if there were more coppers on the beat, it would but not on its own. Education at schools re drugs and a general improvement in education would help. Investment in Inner city and town youth clubs etc, would help. An understanding of why people carry knives, do drugs, join gangs, would help. But the problem is, all these things cost money. Until all these issues and more are addressed, my daughter will continue to go to work like she did yesterday and ask a member of our society in a very unfriendly way to put that loaded crossbow down that is being pointed at her, or he will be shot. That is the society we live in that is now the norm. Is that the society we really want.
 
I'd like to think Thornberry knows that she's spouting bull just for her own political ends. However I worry that her and her ilk do actually believe that what they say makes sense and its we the punters who are stupid.
 
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