Fa Cup Or Top Four

pauldj42 said:
Would you mind emailing me the Lottery numbers for next week? I know you're good but didn't realise you could see the future😃
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Arsenal are only in it to make the numbers up and their fans don't expect them to win it. City need a good bit of quality adding to the squad, Spurs and Leicester haven't really got the experience in their side to take barca, real,bayern,Dortmund, Seville etc
 
sawtooth said:
Who is your team?
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Everton. I know when we won the cup last, before that as well, and so on. I know we qualified for the CL under Moyes but I couldn't tell you the year. The year after it happened it became meaningless. Coming 4th doesn't put anything in the trophy cabinet. No parade for 4th.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
Everton. I know when we won the cup last, before that as well, and so on. I know we qualified for the CL under Moyes but I couldn't tell you the year. The year after it happened it became meaningless. Coming 4th doesn't put anything in the trophy cabinet. No parade for 4th.
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How could you forget that? It was the famous year when Dignity Dave said "Everton were the best team in merseyside", then Liverpool went and won the CL the week after said comments :rofl:
 
sawtooth said:
I've used the stadium as part of the reason for holding us back but that's behind us now.

Money is available in spades and I firmly believe that Wenger will spend more this season than probably his last 3 seasons put together.

Wenger has built rock solid foundations that will enable Arsenal to be competitive and successful over a long time. long after he has gone. That is more important than spending big through a financially tricky time for Arsenal and risk losing everything.

He has managed to keep the ship steady when it could have gone very pear shaped indeed. I can forgive him for not placing our club in danger and if we sacrificed silver ware along the way so be it - I can live with that.
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Is that not just on repeat from last year ?

A different manager could have taken Arsenal the one step further and win a major trophy instead of being out of both each year by March ?

I see he is spending £35 mil on a player who doesn't score goals or sets up goals and isn't a DM but is a tidy creative midfielder - haven't Arsenal got enough of them type of players already ?
 
Stuart_C said:
How could you forget that? It was the famous year when Dignity Dave said "Everton were the best team in merseyside", then Liverpool went and won the CL the week after said comments :rofl:
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That's because we finished 4th and you's 5th so going by the PL table we were or are you saying as you won the CL you were better than the PL Champions as well, bit like saying Man Utd are better than Leicester in the league cos they won the Cup😃
 
Lord Tyrion said:
Everton. I know when we won the cup last, before that as well, and so on. I know we qualified for the CL under Moyes but I couldn't tell you the year. The year after it happened it became meaningless. Coming 4th doesn't put anything in the trophy cabinet. No parade for 4th.
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With respect Arsenal and Everton are not at the same stage of development and ambition. These things go in cycles and one day Everton will look upon the CL (and qualification) as more important than the FA Cup trust me. It may take a year or 50yrs but one day the club's priorities are likely to change.
 
sawtooth said:
With respect Arsenal and Everton are not at the same stage of development and ambition. These things go in cycles and one day Everton will look upon the CL (and qualification) as more important than the FA Cup trust me. It may take a year or 50yrs but one day the club's priorities are likely to change.
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I would argue Evertons and 99% of PL clubs target is to get CL football, the fans more than the Clubs like the silverware, if the Jose rumours are true, LVG has won a trophy and finished 5th and it's not good enough.
 
pauldj42 said:
That's because we finished 4th and you's 5th so going by the PL table we were or are you saying as you won the CL you were better than the PL Champions as well, bit like saying Man Utd are better than Leicester in the league cos they won the Cup😃
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We were the best team in Europe that year and we've got the trophy to prove it :rofl:
 
pauldj42 said:
I would argue Evertons and 99% of PL clubs target is to get CL football, the fans more than the Clubs like the silverware, if the Jose rumours are true, LVG has won a trophy and finished 5th and it's not good enough.
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It's not as straight forward as this suggests.

IMO even if they'd finished 4th he'd be out of the door purely based on how they've played this season with the amount of quality they've got, performances should've been much much better by yerniteds standards.

If their performances had been better and there was improvements being made then missing out on CL qualifiers by a couple of points and a trophy that wouldn't be too bad.
 
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Stuart_C said:
Dress it up whichever way you want mate, we were Champions of Europe:whoo:
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So if Barca win the Spanish Cup tomorrow and do the double, you're saying they're not the best team in Spain as one of the Madrid teams will be CL winners.😂😂
 
I hope I never reach the point where I prefer 2nd, 3rd or 4th over silverware. I understand that others feel differently, no problem with that, but surely trophies mean something. You can show someone a trophy, it sits in a cabinet, you hold it aloft. 3rd place, wooooooo, it's like getting a participation certificate. Utterly forgettable.
 
pauldj42 said:
So if Barca win the Spanish Cup tomorrow and do the double, you're saying they're not the best team in Spain as one of the Madrid teams will be CL winners.😂😂
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Where did I say that?

Either Madrid side will be the best team in Europe.

After all it's the elite club competition that everyone bar arsenal aspire to win :whistle:
 
Lord Tyrion said:
I hope I never reach the point where I prefer 2nd, 3rd or 4th over silverware. I understand that others feel differently, no problem with that, but surely trophies mean something. You can show someone a trophy, it sits in a cabinet, you hold it aloft. 3rd place, wooooooo, it's like getting a participation certificate. Utterly forgettable.
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I'm with you on this LT.
 
Stuart_C said:
Where did I say that?

Either Madrid side will be the best team in Europe.

After all it's the elite club competition that everyone bar arsenal aspire to win :whistle:
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How can you be the best team in Europe and not your own country? Have you been on the ale? 😃
 
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