Fa Cup Or Top Four

ColchesterFC said:
Do you really believe that Arsenal are more competitive now? They've had 20 consecutive years of CL qualification but haven't won the league in 10 years. I know there is the "new stadium to pay for" excuse that can be used but every season for Arsenal seems like groundhog day. Finish top 4 in the league and get knocked out in the CL in the last 8 or 16.
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I've used the stadium as part of the reason for holding us back but that's behind us now.

Money is available in spades and I firmly believe that Wenger will spend more this season than probably his last 3 seasons put together.

Wenger has built rock solid foundations that will enable Arsenal to be competitive and successful over a long time. long after he has gone. That is more important than spending big through a financially tricky time for Arsenal and risk losing everything.

He has managed to keep the ship steady when it could have gone very pear shaped indeed. I can forgive him for not placing our club in danger and if we sacrificed silver ware along the way so be it - I can live with that.
 
Pin-seeker said:
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Yep, and their long time fans who grew up watching a smallish provincial team will always have the memories of the glorious day they won the FA Cup.

If finishing in the top 4 every year is so awesome , why is there a constant drone of those boorish Arsenal fans on TV and radio all season long year in and year out?
 
Three said:
Yep, and their long time fans who grew up watching a smallish provincial team will always have the memories of the glorious day they won the FA Cup.

If finishing in the top 4 every year is so awesome , why is there a constant drone of those boorish Arsenal fans on TV and radio all season long year in and year out?
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Because Arsenal should be achieving more.
But then again they've won a couple of FA cups recently,so does that Silerware mean they've been successful?
 
pauldj42 said:
So Boro were losers this season and you'll be so p!ssed off if Boro finished 2nd - 4th next season then?
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Unless I'm mistaken, the prize this season was promotion.

And who, in 20 years time, will remember Boro came 4th in the prem? Everyone who's into football knows the likes of Preston have a great history, and that the likes of Liverpool and Utd were great champions but no one remembers the losers.

If you want to talk about money, without the passion that football brings let's talk about second to fourth. But that isn't what football is all about for me.
 
sawtooth said:
I've used the stadium as part of the reason for holding us back but that's behind us now.

Money is available in spades and I firmly believe that Wenger will spend more this season than probably his last 3 seasons put together.

Wenger has built rock solid foundations that will enable Arsenal to be competitive and successful over a long time. long after he has gone. That is more important than spending big through a financially tricky time for Arsenal and risk losing everything.

He has managed to keep the ship steady when it could have gone very pear shaped indeed. I can forgive him for not placing our club in danger and if we sacrificed silver ware along the way so be it - I can live with that.
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Fergie left Utd as champions and look at them now. Past success guarantees nothing. And wengers success doesn't compare to fergies......

sawtooth said:
More success in last couple of years than Utd , Spurs, Liverpool, but for some reason Arsenal and Wenger get heavily criticised.
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What success? The fa cup? You've told us all that the fa isn't important.........
 
Man Utd are bigger than Arsenal, we've closed the gap somewhat due to Wenger.
We are one of the wealthiest clubs in Europe now.

If 20 years ago Wenger never came to Arsenal then I am pretty confident that we would not be where we are now.

i don't think I said the FA cup isn't important , someone asked the question what would you prefer, the cup or top 4.

I would like both but if winning the Cup meant not having CL next year then yes I stand by what I said.
 
Hobbit said:
Unless I'm mistaken, the prize this season was promotion.

And who, in 20 years time, will remember Boro came 4th in the prem? Everyone who's into football knows the likes of Preston have a great history, and that the likes of Liverpool and Utd were great champions but no one remembers the losers.

If you want to talk about money, without the passion that football brings let's talk about second to fourth. But that isn't what football is all about for me.
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I've already posted my preference is FA Cup, but to simply write 2nd-4th as losers is plain daft, if it's ok for your target to simply be promotion then why can't a team have top 4 as a target and anything better than that is a bonus.
The crap posted on here about Arsenal having a bad season compared to LPool is laughable.
 
Lord Tyrion said:
FA cup every time. A trophy is there for ever, no one remembers who came 2nd, 3rd or 4th. 2nd, 3rd and 4th is for the accountants.
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Aren't 2nd or 3rd in La Liga going to win the CL this season? LPool certainly weren't PL champions when they last won it.
 
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