Fa Cup Or Top Four

[Papas1982]

Being successful and winning trophies are different things, just ask Portsmouth.

Or Ask Leeds fans (a team who chased top 4).
Examples can be made to fit both arguments. But if 50 years time. One club is still in the history books and this comes from a saints fan.

Clubs bs should want trophies first and foremost. The fact some prioritise 3 runner up is a sad state of affairs.

re Man Utd not entering, they did that with the fa's blessing as they thought it would help a World Cup bid.

 

[Captainron]

The FA Cup is a shell of the competition it once was because of the Champions League. It might play in the sticks but it shouldn't keep Van Gaal his job.

 

[Beezerk]

FA Cup. Top 4, and then getting knocked out in group stages or indeed failing to qualify (4th) doesn't get you on the honours list.

This.
No one remembers or cares who came 4th in the Premier League x amount of years ago.

 

[Backache]

As a manager league position is a greater demonstration of competence as it is generally a fairly accurate reflection of how you have played over a season.
As a fan I would rather see my team winning trophies than just qualifying for the next one.
The main caveat to that is that qualifying for the Champions league can in a well run club generate funds and attract better players to make for a more exiting team to watch the following season than winning the FA cup.

 

[sawtooth]

Deffo top 4, I love my club competing in the CL

Arsenal have been successful this year, whereas Liverpool played in 2 finals and lost them both. Failed season pure and simple.

Runners up in league wins you something and runners up in the cup doesnt.

 

[Beezerk]

Deffo top 4, I love my club competing in the CL

Arsenal have been successful this year, whereas Liverpool played in 2 finals and lost them both. Failed season pure and simple.

Runners up in league wins you something and runners up in the cup doesnt.

The thread is about winning the fa cup not losing in the final.

 

[sawtooth]

The thread is about winning the fa cup not losing in the final.

Deffo top 4, I love my club competing in the CL

There I said it again in case it wasn't very clear last time.

 

[chrisd]

I've got to say the Cup but then we're not going to finish 4 th any time soon

 

[Papas1982]

Deffo top 4, I love my club competing in the CL

Arsenal have been successful this year, whereas Liverpool played in 2 finals and lost them both. Failed season pure and simple.

Runners up in league wins you something and runners up in the cup doesnt.

I've just had a look on the arsenal website. I can't for the life of me see where it mentions 20 seasons in the cl on your honours list?

Runners up allows you the opportunity to play in another cup, but just like Liverpool and every premier league team except Leicester, Man City and Man Utd/palace, arsenal have WON ZERO this season. If in 40 years time you can genuinely look back and tell fond memories of a season that finished every March with a mad scramble to finish as close to (but never close enough) to first, I feel sorry for you. to support a club is to want to win things. Not participate....

 

[Papas1982]

Deffo top 4, I love my club competing in the CL

There I said it again in case it wasn't very clear last time.

Think you maybe need to check the definition of compete. The word suggests a chance if winning, when in actual fact you simply make up the number.

 

[Piece]

FA Cup. It is a no brainer. History remembers winners, not a team that finishes fourth, 15 or so points behind the winner.

 

[MegaSteve]

If your continued employment requires a top four finish then anything else amounts to sweet FA really...

However you want to present it...

 

[sawtooth]

FA Cup. It is a no brainer. History remembers winners, not a team that finishes fourth, 15 or so points behind the winner.

I think it depends on the club to be honest. With Arsenal they have never won the CL and will never win it if they don't play in it. So qualifying for it is important and the money from it will make Arsenal more competitive in the league and other comps.

Take Palace for example , they have never won a major honour so the FA Cup is their priority and rightly so.

If they win it a few more times in the next 5 years their priorities might change who knows.

 

[chrisd]

Take Palace for example , they have never won a major honour so the FA Cup is their priority and rightly so.

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Cheeky git! We won the Zenith Data Systems Cup!

 

[Papas1982]

I think it depends on the club to be honest. With Arsenal they have never won the CL and will never win it if they don't play in it. So qualifying for it is important and the money from it will make Arsenal more competitive in the league and other comps.

Take Palace for example , they have never won a major honour so the FA Cup is their priority and rightly so.

If they win it a few more times in the next 5 years their priorities might change who knows.

That's a fair point, but honestly. Do you think the board really want you in the cl so you can win it? Or so you can make money.

Would you you settle for winning the cl then 3/4 years finishing 5th? I fear the board are happy with a place year on year.

 

[sawtooth]

Cheeky git! We won the Zenith Data Systems Cup!

HaHa no offence , It's the year of the underdog so you never know. Fingers crossed for the Eagles.

 

[Piece]

I think it depends on the club to be honest. With Arsenal they have never won the CL and will never win it if they don't play in it. So qualifying for it is important and the money from it will make Arsenal more competitive in the league and other comps.

Yeah, I do tend to agree with that. I would also add that Arsenal's recent cup wins has keep Arsene in the job.

 

[Deleted member 1740]

Silverware is the only way to measure success.

 

[ColchesterFC]

I think it depends on the club to be honest. With Arsenal they have never won the CL and will never win it if they don't play in it. So qualifying for it is important and the money from it will make Arsenal more competitive in the league and other comps.

Do you really believe that Arsenal are more competitive now? They've had 20 consecutive years of CL qualification but haven't won the league in 10 years. I know there is the "new stadium to pay for" excuse that can be used but every season for Arsenal seems like groundhog day. Finish top 4 in the league and get knocked out in the CL in the last 8 or 16.

 

[chrisd]

HaHa no offence , It's the year of the underdog so you never know. Fingers crossed for the Eagles.

None taken. Can't believe the crap I've read about Arsenal!