Smiffy
Grand Slam Winner
I don't think he meant world ranking. More that there were better players ahead of him. Like Nadal, Federer and djocovic.
And George Patterson, a member of Bexhill & District Tennis Club.
I don't think he meant world ranking. More that there were better players ahead of him. Like Nadal, Federer and djocovic.
Not just my opinion. At end of his career, I'd imagine most people would put him behind Nadal, Djokivic and Federer. There is no chance he'd ever even he in the conversation of "Greatest of his Era", let alone "Greatest of All Time"That may be your opinion, but this link indicates otherwise! https://www.coretennis.net/tennis-player/andy-murray/279/ranking.html
From 5 April 2015 until 29 Oct 2017 (almost 30 consecutive months), he was never out of Top 3!
From Nov 6 2016 until Aug 13 2017 (over 9 consecutive months), he was #1!
Maybe a separate ‘honours thread’ is warranted ?
I wouldn't be surprised - though it's Djokovic' btwNot just my opinion. At end of his career, I'd imagine most people would put him behind Nadal, Djokivic and Federer. There is no chance he'd ever even he in the conversation of "Greatest of his Era", let alone "Greatest of All Time"...
As was pointed out, I was not referring to the Official World Tennis Rankings in my OP. I was talking about being within the top 3 overall within his eraI wouldn't be surprised - though it's Djokovic' btw
That wasn't what my description of your post was 'Utter Twaddle' was about though! It was about your erroneous assertion(s) about his ranking!
Another FWIW....I believe Hamilton would definitely be 'in the conversation' about GOAT, but (for me) not (yet) the 'winner'.
Then you should be more careful with your wording! Using 'of' cf 'in' in the original claim would have been more appropriate. There was plenty of opportunity to clarify later too, but...As was pointed out, I was not referring to the Official World Tennis Rankings in my OP. I was talking about being within the top 3 overall within his era
So looking forward to the 2022 thread....
Once the SLH furore has died down, I'm sure all the trolls will return to thier bridges.So looking forward to the 2022 thread....
Wonder who Andy Murray will be driving for???So looking forward to the 2022 thread....
It seems others knew what I was talking about, especially in context to what the discussion was about.Then you should be more careful with your wording! Using 'of' cf 'in' in the original claim would have been more appropriate. There was plenty of opportunity to clarify later too, but...
And (another FWIW), unlike LPPhil, I've no issue with either Murray nor Hamilton being knighted. Both deserve it, though the timing of Murray's was maybe a bit more 'deserving'.
That lazy argument again, it is the car doing all the work. Fair enough, Messi is not even close to being one of the greatest footballers, as he played for one of the best teams of all time.
Hmmm, not sure it is the end. I mean, the FIA are investigating the whole affair, and I'm sure changes / clarifications will be introduced. So, it is probably only the beginning, and a long way from the end.A silly comment.
The cars don't do all of the work, but having a better car is a huge advantage.
The Messi analogy is just being churlish.
This is pointless, I'm too old for this bickerfest which I was, admittedly, dragged into ...................... apologies for that.
People won't change their opinions.
The season ended poorly and, arguably, wrongly.
Max is champion.
Lewis isn't.
The End.
And if we want to discuss the fallout from the FIAs investigation into the AD GP?I dunno but seems like the F1 2021 thread may have run its course now. Given the slightly odd tangent it’s gone on.
Lock it and wait for the 2022 thread in feb?!
And if we want to discuss the fallout from the FIAs investigation into the AD GP?
If you dont like it. don't stop by
Yes I agree , hopefully the trolls will get bored soon.You've misunderstood my post. I'm keen to talk and read about F1, but there's several pages of tangential stuff on knighthoods, Andy Murray and bus driving.
To be fair, the Andy Murray and knighthood stuff was brought up directly due to Lewis Hamilton's knighthood. So, in that sense, Lewis Hamilton and F1 were the primary subject. But, it did go off on a little tangent when Andy Murrays career was reviewed in a lot more detail than was probably required.You've misunderstood my post. I'm keen to talk and read about F1, but there's several pages of tangential stuff on knighthoods, Andy Murray and bus driving.
To be fair, the Andy Murray and knighthood stuff was brought up directly due to Lewis Hamilton's knighthood. So, in that sense, Lewis Hamilton and F1 were the primary subject. But, it did go off on a little tangent when Andy Murrays career was reviewed in a lot more detail than was probably required.
Quite so.In my opinion, Lewis Hamilton definitely deserved the knighthood. If a big part of that knighthood was to do with his achievements within his sport, I don't see why he can't get the knighthood now, rather than having to wait 5, 10, 20,etc years.