Smiffy
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And George Patterson, a member of Bexhill & District Tennis Club.
F1 2021
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And George Patterson, a member of Bexhill & District Tennis Club.
Swango1980
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Not just my opinion. At end of his career, I'd imagine most people would put him behind Nadal, Djokivic and Federer. There is no chance he'd ever even he in the conversation of "Greatest of his Era", let alone "Greatest of All Time"
However, in motor racing, many will consider Lewis as GOAT, or at least enter him within the discussion. Doesn't matter what individuals think. I'm sure many will just not be able to give Lewis any credit, and certainly will desperately try and tell those that listen he is not the GOAT. Doesn't matter, the fact that many think he is the GOAT shows he has achieved a huge amount in his career. Michael Schumacher gained legendary status globally after his achievements, whether individuals liked him or not (he had a decent car as well). No different to Lewis Hamilton. For me, at least, it makes me proud he is a Brit.
bobmac
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Foxholer
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I wouldn't be surprised - though it's Djokovic' btw
That wasn't what my description of your post was 'Utter Twaddle' was about though! It was about your erroneous assertion(s) about his ranking!
Another FWIW....I believe Hamilton would definitely be 'in the conversation' about GOAT, but (for me) not (yet) the 'winner'.
Swango1980
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As was pointed out, I was not referring to the Official World Tennis Rankings in my OP. I was talking about being within the top 3 overall within his eraI wouldn't be surprised - though it's Djokovic' btw
That wasn't what my description of your post was 'Utter Twaddle' was about though! It was about your erroneous assertion(s) about his ranking!
Another FWIW....I believe Hamilton would definitely be 'in the conversation' about GOAT, but (for me) not (yet) the 'winner'.
Foxholer
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Then you should be more careful with your wording! Using 'of' cf 'in' in the original claim would have been more appropriate. There was plenty of opportunity to clarify later too, but...
And (another FWIW), unlike LPPhil, I've no issue with either Murray nor Hamilton being knighted. Both deserve it, though the timing of Murray's was maybe a bit more 'deserving'.
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Imurg
The Grinder Of Pars (Semi Crocked)
So looking forward to the 2022 thread....
SteveW86
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So looking forward to the 2022 thread....
I assumed this would get renamed the F1 thread like the footy one changed
Could probably delete most of the last 20 pages though
theoneandonly
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Once the SLH furore has died down, I'm sure all the trolls will return to thier bridges.So looking forward to the 2022 thread....
Cherry13
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Wonder who Andy Murray will be driving for???So looking forward to the 2022 thread....
Swango1980
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It seems others knew what I was talking about, especially in context to what the discussion was about.Then you should be more careful with your wording! Using 'of' cf 'in' in the original claim would have been more appropriate. There was plenty of opportunity to clarify later too, but...
And (another FWIW), unlike LPPhil, I've no issue with either Murray nor Hamilton being knighted. Both deserve it, though the timing of Murray's was maybe a bit more 'deserving'.
Anyway, back to F1 and what prompted the discussion (and a general point, rather than necessarily responding directly to.you). In my opinion, Lewis Hamilton definitely deserved the knighthood. If a big part of that knighthood was to do with his achievements within his sport, I don't see why he can't get the knighthood now, rather than having to wait 5, 10, 20,etc years.
Canary_Yellow
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I dunno but seems like the F1 2021 thread may have run its course now. Given the slightly odd tangent it’s gone on.
Lock it and wait for the 2022 thread in feb?!
Lock it and wait for the 2022 thread in feb?!
Slime
Tour Winner
A silly comment.
The cars don't do all of the work, but having a better car is a huge advantage.
The Messi analogy is just being churlish.
This is pointless, I'm too old for this bickerfest which I was, admittedly, dragged into ...................... apologies for that.
People won't change their opinions.
The season ended poorly and, arguably, wrongly.
Max is champion.
Lewis isn't.
The End.
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Swango1980
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Hmmm, not sure it is the end. I mean, the FIA are investigating the whole affair, and I'm sure changes / clarifications will be introduced. So, it is probably only the beginning, and a long way from the end.
theoneandonly
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And if we want to discuss the fallout from the FIAs investigation into the AD GP?
If you dont like it. don't stop by
Canary_Yellow
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You've misunderstood my post. I'm keen to talk and read about F1, but there's several pages of tangential stuff on knighthoods, Andy Murray and bus driving.
theoneandonly
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Yes I agree , hopefully the trolls will get bored soon.
Swango1980
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To be fair, the Andy Murray and knighthood stuff was brought up directly due to Lewis Hamilton's knighthood. So, in that sense, Lewis Hamilton and F1 were the primary subject. But, it did go off on a little tangent when Andy Murrays career was reviewed in a lot more detail than was probably required.
Canary_Yellow
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Well yes, given this is the 2021 F1 season discussion.
cliveb
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Quite so.
If Lewis (103 wins, 7 titles) doesn't deserve a knighthood, then nor do Jackie Stewart (27 wins, 3 titles), Jack Brabham (14 wins, 3 titles) and Stirling Moss (16 wins, 0 titles).
