Extinction rebellion

[Lord Tyrion]

The society we live in means it is virtually impossible to not use fossil fuels and to do things that are bad for the environment. We really need to move away from the concept that unless you live in a yurt in a commune recycling your own p**s to drink you can't have an opinion on the environment or that you can't point out that we are in dangerous environmental times. As there are some really powerful people out there who, for mostly financial reasons connected to their personal wealth, want you not to believe that. For example my young daughter has been greatly inspired by Greta and the ilk to make some changes as to be honest she is not a cynical old fart like the rest of us, always looking for a reason not to change their comfortable lifestyle.

Yes there is some hypocrisy there and they know it and have admitted it. But for the sake of the younger generation we should occasionally listen to the message and drop the snark.

I get what you are saying but there is a smug level of superiority, see also Lewis Hamilton, that really grates. Surely Emma Thompson tops the list. She goes into full emotional actor mode, turns on the tears, tells everyone else to change but she will carry on flying because films and award ceremonies are worth killing the planet for, okay I may have added the last part of the sentence.

My point, and others, is that I don't expect everyone to go back 200yrs but those giving the message have to have a degree of credibility otherwise people will switch off and the very good message gets lost.

 

[Hacker Khan]

I get what you are saying but there is a smug level of superiority, see also Lewis Hamilton, that really grates. Surely Emma Thompson tops the list. She goes into full emotional actor mode, turns on the tears, tells everyone else to change but she will carry on flying because films and award ceremonies are worth killing the planet for, okay I may have added the last part of the sentence.

My point, and others, is that I don't expect everyone to go back 200yrs but those giving the message have to have a degree of credibility otherwise people will switch off and the very good message gets lost.

Rightly or wrongly, 'celebrities' get a disproportionate amount of exposure and people listen to what they say. And generally if you are a well known celebrity you will travel a bit and therefore need to use planes. It would be great if Swampy had 2 million Instagram followers and was being interviewed on BBC breakfast, but in the real world that does not happen. I totally get the hypocrisy in ER trying to disrupt public transport as something that will turn people off. But switching off just because Emma Thompson uses planes to get around the world is not the best IMHO.

 

[Deleted member 25172]

Rightly or wrongly, 'celebrities' get a disproportionate amount of exposure and people listen to what they say. And generally if you are a well known celebrity you will travel a bit and therefore need to use planes. It would be great if Swampy had 2 million Instagram followers and was being interviewed on BBC breakfast, but in the real world that does not happen. I totally get the hypocrisy in ER trying to disrupt public transport as something that will turn people off. But switching off just because Emma Thompson uses planes to get around the world is not the best IMHO.

Gotcha. Multi millionaire celebrities should be able to enjoy life, travelling the world as their jobs require it. Them telling regular working people what to do and not to do to save the planet is just an extra bonus. We shall not forget that Emma Thompson actually "climate compensate" by planting trees. What a hero.

 

[clubchamp98]

“Let’s disrupt the general public on an electric train on public transport”

Someone in ER should have pointed out the obvious flaw in this plan.
It shows their judgement is not good .
The public may understand their cause ,but won’t understand this .
The violence was ott but was started by the guy standing on the train.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

“Let’s disrupt the general public on an electric train on public transport”

Someone in ER should have pointed out the obvious flaw in this plan.
It shows their judgement is not good .
The public may understand their cause ,but won’t understand this .
The violence was ott but was started by the guy standing on the train.

And his lashing out when trying to be got down from the roof of the train.

 

[clubchamp98]

And his lashing out when trying to be got down from the roof of the train.

Yes that was my point he kicked the guy trying to get on the train.

 

[Dando]

I see the great unwashed are now blocking Oxford Circus

 

[SocketRocket]

I see the great unwashed are now blocking Oxford Circus

Get Boris's water cannon out of mothballs and hose them down with swamp water. Or if you want to be more humane add a bit of angostura bitters.

 

[larmen]

I see the great unwashed are now blocking Oxford Circus

In my limited experience this is always blocked anyway. I used to pass there daily about 18 years ago, but like all non tourists this is a place to be avoided.

 

[Dando]

In my limited experience this is always blocked anyway. I used to pass there daily about 18 years ago, but like all non tourists this is a place to be avoided.

So them breaking the law is ok

 

[Bunkermagnet]

Get Boris's water cannon out of mothballs and hose them down with swamp water. Or if you want to be more humane add a bit of angostura bitters.

They went to the scrap yard........good use of public money there then

 

[Blue in Munich]

In my limited experience this is always blocked anyway. I used to pass there daily about 18 years ago, but like all non tourists this is a place to be avoided.

Mrs BiM used to work there, you are spot on re avoiding it.

 

[SocketRocket]

They went to the scrap yard........good use of public money there then

Scrapping them was a waste, could be handy now.

 

[williamalex1]

Why isn't there more filters being applied/ invented, something like Catalytic converter technology adapted for use on other pollution outlets, power stations, aircraft, lorries, cows etc.

 

[ColchesterFC]

Why isn't there more filters being applied/ invented, something like Catalytic converter technology adapted for use on other pollution outlets, power stations, aircraft, lorries, cows etc.

I thought power stations already had carbon capture technology. Not sure there's much you can do about cows but if you'd like to invest in my new start up company "Cow Nappies" then I'm sure we can negotiate a good deal.

 

[williamalex1]

I thought power stations already had carbon capture technology. Not sure there's much you can do about cows but if you'd like to invest in my new fart up company "Cow Nappies" then I'm sure we can negotiate a good deal.

OK, sorted that for you lol. send me a carbon copy of the contract by airmail

 

[fundy]

Rightly or wrongly, 'celebrities' get a disproportionate amount of exposure and people listen to what they say. And generally if you are a well known celebrity you will travel a bit and therefore need to use planes. It would be great if Swampy had 2 million Instagram followers and was being interviewed on BBC breakfast, but in the real world that does not happen. I totally get the hypocrisy in ER trying to disrupt public transport as something that will turn people off. But switching off just because Emma Thompson uses planes to get around the world is not the best IMHO.

why do they need to fly half way round the world to protest? why cant they protest where they are?

 

[Deleted member 25172]

why do they need to fly half way round the world to protest? why cant they protest where they are?

They can, but they wouldn’t be building their “brand” as well then. And as we can tell, people are still falling for it.

 

[bobmac]

If someone decides not to fly to somewhere, the plane will still go, the pollution will still happen.
If, however a person decides to buy another diesel/petrol car, they are making a choice.
To not choose an electric/hybrid car is to choose to continue polluting the air everyone breathes.
And to say they are too expensive and dont have the range, that argument will soon not be the case............

Jaguar XF 2.0d I4D Diesel 180ps Auto R-Sport
2019, 10 miles
0-60 7.9 ses
136mph
CO2 ....135g/km
First year annual tax...£855
Full tank...£96 ish
£49,645 (including tax)


Tesla Model 3 Standard Range
2019, 8 miles
0-60 5.3 sec
140mph
CO2 .....0
First year annual tax...£0.00
258 mile range (329 miles long range model)
Full tank...£12 (home charge)
Battery guarantee ....100,000 miles
£44,995 (including tax)


And for shallower pockets.......

MG ZS 44.5kWh Excite EV
2019
0-60 8.5 sec
85mph
CO2.....0
First year annual tax...£0.00
231 mile range
£21,995

And for deeper pockets
Tesla Model 3 Performance (4 door saloon)
2019
0-60 3.2 (hyper-car territory )
162mph
CO2 ...0
329 mile range
£57.999

 

[fundy]

And for those who dont spend close to 20k+ on a car?