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What happens if you don't have those ?
We looked at getting a Marshall and it would cost a lot of money
What happens if you don't have those ?
We looked at getting a Marshall and it would cost a lot of money
upsidedown
Tour Winner
Then you ask for volunteers :thup:
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Been looked into already as well
I spent 3 months investigating a course Marshall at our place.
They have had volunteers previously and it didn't work
Leereed
Head Pro
At ours I think the Marshall's are all retired and get there membership for nothing.
Don't think they work through the winter.Seen one on Friday for the first time this year.
Don't think they work through the winter.Seen one on Friday for the first time this year.
upsidedown
Tour Winner
Why didn't it work ?
So how do the rest of your membership feel about "poor etiquette " ?
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Issues with arguments on the course with members not taking orders as such from other members and the number of volunteers dropped down to nil
Well haven't really asked the rest of the membership but have heard rumblings of people not happy with a few things
Not sure how much a marshall will actually see regarding not repairing pitch marks etc. It has to be a change of mind set to get members to have pride in their greens and the course and not leave the pitch marks for someone else. That's a big ask
upsidedown
Tour Winner
That's a shame , did they receive training in how not to be confrontational and thus not lead to arguments.
I see it as a slow burner Homer, they sit by the side of your worst green for pitch marks and observe groups playing through for a couple of hours. Members being members would ask why they're there/ what are you up too and they can use that interaction to educate. Marshall could also ask if they had any issues they'd like to see addressed.
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All trainjng was given etc
And etiquette is more than just pitchmarks.
And etiquette is more than just pitchmarks.
upsidedown
Tour Winner
Of course it is, as mentioned above the Marshall would be looking at all aspects. The one that really bugs me is FP's chatting away or thinking they're whispering when it's other players turn .
Crow
Crow Person
The best thing any golfer can do is to lead by example and hopefully others will follow.
If you see somebody not repairing a pitch mark or similar then offer a jocular comment such as "If you've forgotten your pitch mark repairer you only have to ask and you can borrow mine".
Admittedly you can only do this with the players in your group and if you always play with the same people then the effect will be limited but it will spread.
Anyway, the main reason I wanted to post something was to report that I've just eaten the most scrummy toad-in-the-hole with fried onions and gravy that my dear wife made.
It didn't seem worth starting a thread for, but it was so good that maybe it was?
If you see somebody not repairing a pitch mark or similar then offer a jocular comment such as "If you've forgotten your pitch mark repairer you only have to ask and you can borrow mine".
Admittedly you can only do this with the players in your group and if you always play with the same people then the effect will be limited but it will spread.
Anyway, the main reason I wanted to post something was to report that I've just eaten the most scrummy toad-in-the-hole with fried onions and gravy that my dear wife made.
It didn't seem worth starting a thread for, but it was so good that maybe it was?
arnieboy
Challenge Tour Pro
Its a bit like dropping litter, people know they shouldn't do it but many don't give a toss.
HankMarvin
Tour Rookie
And a Marshall would do what, throw members off the course ?Good luck with that oneAnyway why didn't you do it, it seems the good thing to do as you have all the answers
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Deleted member 15344
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A course Marshall was for more than monitoring players etiquette on the golf course. Plenty of courses have course Marshalls
Exactly, Lions don't need to roar, sometimes just an adhock presence at key areas by a committee member or the Pro, sitting from a distance watching, making notes watching how long groups take to tee off, vacate the green etc, the bar would be buzzing about it afterwards, everyone would then know they are being observed because problems have got to that degree, I would expect to see a drop in problems at those key places in the future.
HankMarvin
Tour Rookie
It seems to me that your course has some real issues & that your current committee have no idea on how to deal with them, why did it take over 3 months to look into a Marshall. I agree that some course have Marshalls but you won't find them much on private members courses they tend to have Marshalls at courses where it's mostly pay as you play corporate courses.
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The issues I have seen aren't just on my course - seen it at plenty of other course around the country.
The problem of poor etiquette is relevant all over the game
And even then they can be a waste of time, I played in a Nike matchplay comp at a De Vere, we, as a 2-ball got caught behind a society who's last 4-ball had lost 2 holes by the 8th, the Marshall refused to have a word with them to let us though and said we should be prepared to play at a 4-balls place, even if we did they certainly weren't and a 5hr round ensued, I'll never play at that course again!
Other than the odd pitch mark, we don't have the level of issues you were ranting about happening at your club in the OP.
HankMarvin
Tour Rookie
So just to be clear you have never shown bad etiquette & you are a roll model, maybe your club should make you a poster boy and ask all the members to learn from you
