Etiquette

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Hacker Khan said:
The word 'etiquette' is outdated and I imagine to young people who the game needs to attract, sounds like something Victorian dad would day. Yes people need to learn the common sense stuff listed by the OP, by both trying to learn it before hand and also by playing the game. But please don't make it sound like it is something taken from the script of Downton Abbey. Every other sport has common sense things you do or not do, but they are not so pretentious to call it 'etiquette'.
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Doesnt cricket and tennis have a dress code and their own unusual language?

Hacker Khan said:
Yes people need to learn the common sense stuff listed by the OP
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Do they really need to learn 'common sense'?
 
I’m quite partial to the word etiquette, despite being a mere stripling.

I’d also argue that it’s not so much the young that the game needs to attract as the 30+ and middle aged, people who as a rule don’t get put off because they can't wear their normal gear on the course and aren’t embarrassed by golf’s “Victorian dad” image.

The game has been bending over backwards trying to attract the young, just admit it, golf is by and large a game that attracts the more mature individual. If clubs were to invest money attracting the 30+ market they’d see far more benefit pound for pound. (And they wouldn’t have to worry about relaxing dress codes or dropping words from the language.
 
Fish said:
So again, just playing devil's advocate, I hope your club never has a big problem with bunkers because if I was following you and watching you jump back in bunkers after waiting for you all to putt out and then see you jumping back in greenside bunkers correcting the rakes positions and no doubt having to rake them again also, I'm not sure what I'd think, I know you'd most certainly be unduly delaying yourself and myself by doing so, wouldn't you?
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I don't faff about tweaking a rake that might be slightly out of 'position' - and I tend to not go into a bunker as I'd then have to rake my footsteps - but I will spend a minute or two (because that's all it takes) to sort out stupidly positioned rakes. And if that means the group behind has to wait one minute before playing to the green then that is fine by me - as they will be able to see what I'm doing and appreciate what I am doing for them - and maybe also be more diligent themselves. I really have no problems at all doing this, and if anyone pulled me up for it they'd get a piece of my mind.
 
Do folk actually look out for how the rake should be placed when going and playing a course they haven't played?

There are far more important issues to worry about than how a rake is positioned in/next to a bunker.
 
Raesy92 said:
Do folk actually look out for how the rake should be placed when going and playing a course they haven't played?

There are far more important issues to worry about than how a rake is positioned in/next to a bunker.
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Far happier if there's actually a rake there to tidy up after visiting the sand. Found several top courses where there wasn't at least one per bunker
 
HomerJSimpson said:
Far happier if there's actually a rake there to tidy up after visiting the sand. Found several top courses where there wasn't at least one per bunker
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Agreed. Even worse is when you are in a mini desert and there’s one rake 100 yards away for the entire bloody bunker!

Another thing that annoys me is people not shouting FORE! My PP are pretty guilty of this and I usually have to do it for them.
 
Raesy92 said:
Do folk actually look out for how the rake should be placed when going and playing a course they haven't played?

There are far more important issues to worry about than how a rake is positioned in/next to a bunker.
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There are - but it is good practice and etiquette, and a simple courtesy to fellow golfers, to leave the green and bunkers as you would like to find them. And if that means spending a couple of minutes repairing pitch marks (on green and in apron) and sorting out carelessly or stupidly left rakes - then that's what I will do.
 
TheJezster said:
Whats a carelessly left rake?

Surely a rakes a rake. It's either in or around the bunker near to where you took your shot from?
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I think you are being a wee bit obtuse here. A club will specify where players should place bunker rakes. Any rake not placed accordingly is carelessly (or stupidly) placed. For instance (a real example) how would you describe how the rake in the picture is placed; if you saw it would you 'walk on by'; I cannot think of any circumstance under which I would leave that rake where it is.

...well I tried to post a picture here but it's too big - and photobucket links through to all my own pictures...

wooo - didn't mean it to be quite that big a pic
 
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Raesy92 said:
Do folk actually look out for how the rake should be placed when going and playing a course they haven't played?

There are far more important issues to worry about than how a rake is positioned in/next to a bunker.
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Only one person
 
Seriously! Some clubs will specify where a rake should be left!!???? Dear God I've heard it all now! I have never heard that and nor would I ever look out for any signs in any clubhouse for that. That's just well I'm not sure there are words for it....
 
TheJezster said:
Seriously! Some clubs will specify where a rake should be left!!???? Dear God I've heard it all now! I have never heard that and nor would I ever look out for any signs in any clubhouse for that. That's just well I'm not sure there are words for it....
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I think it will be more where the greenkeepers left it but being honest I can't ever recall at any club I have played any posters or communications in regards where a rake should be.
 
I did not know about rakes either. Gunna ask a stupid question then what is the correct place?
At ours some are half in half out
at the side
in the bunker.
 
Leereed said:
I did not know about rakes either. Gunna ask a stupid question then what is the correct place?
At ours some are half in half out
at the side
in the bunker.
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There is no correct place - there will be differing opinions about where the best place for the rake to be
 
Liverpoolphil said:
There is no correct place - there will be differing opinions about where the best place for the rake to be
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My club stipulates that 'rakes should be placed in the middle of bunkers pointing towards the flag'. Now whether you or I agree with that directive or not is completely irrelevant - at my place their IS a correct place for a rake.
 
SwingsitlikeHogan said:
My club stipulates that 'rakes should be placed in the middle of bunkers pointing towards the flag'. Now whether you or I agree with that directive or not is completely irrelevant - at my place their IS a correct place for a rake.
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But which end points towards the flag ?! What a dilemma

Playing there with the Mariners I can't recall any notice and saw rakes in various positions - certainly not many in the place you suggest
 
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