Val
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I agree, and they are more impartial. I'm agreeing with you
I knew you were, just highlighting reasons
England vs Italy
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I knew you were, just highlighting reasons
Imurg
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So if it had been Scotland instead of England and the commentators said the same stuff............?
Mind you I wouldn't have been watching anyway...
sawtooth
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No Complaints. The better team went through, I would have felt a hell of a lot worse had England played the better and went out on pens. As it was, Italy played us off the park and thoroughly deserved it.
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Hodgson has made a living on these tactics for the last 15yrs.his tactics in his 6 games in charge have been exactly the same only he got lucky with his substitutions against Sweden.
The man's a footballing fraud and I'll guarantee that England will not qualify for 2014 world cup in Brazil with tactics like that.
Pretty much sums it up. Attack v defence for the 2nd half and ET and we were poor in the 2nd half. Almost Cappello or Mclaren like with no plan B or idea of how to keep the ball. A shame as in the first half I thought we were a good match for the Italians
beggsy
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John terry = crap, ash cole = crap, ash young = crap need I go on
Golfmmad
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[QUOTE
The man's a footballing fraud and I'll guarantee that England will not qualify for 2014 world cup in Brazil with tactics like that.[/QUOTE]
You could be right - and then the FA will appoint Gary Neville - he who has been taught by the Master, Sir Alex Ferguson.
PS,
Sorry StuartC, didn't quite get the quote right. not sure what I did wrong.
The man's a footballing fraud and I'll guarantee that England will not qualify for 2014 world cup in Brazil with tactics like that.[/QUOTE]
You could be right - and then the FA will appoint Gary Neville - he who has been taught by the Master, Sir Alex Ferguson.
PS,
Sorry StuartC, didn't quite get the quote right. not sure what I did wrong.
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G1BB0
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Welbeck not good enough
Rooney unfit/lack of match practice
Young pants
Milner works hard but pants
Terry too old
Parker will run his nuts off but no savvy going forward
a severe lack of ambition tbh, decent defensively but can only defend so much
Ahh well another tourney goes begging cos I havent really seen a team that looks the dogs b's
Rooney unfit/lack of match practice
Young pants
Milner works hard but pants
Terry too old
Parker will run his nuts off but no savvy going forward
a severe lack of ambition tbh, decent defensively but can only defend so much
Ahh well another tourney goes begging cos I havent really seen a team that looks the dogs b's
Mungoscorner
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As a neutral i found the game very entertaining,Italy were clearly the better team,and the gulf in class was obvious,but you have to give England credit for keeping a clean sheet for 120 minutes.
The thing that impressed me most was the sportsmanship before,during and after the game.A lot of respect between both teams,and no nonsense on the pitch.
The thing that impressed me most was the sportsmanship before,during and after the game.A lot of respect between both teams,and no nonsense on the pitch.
sydney greenstreet
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They're coming home, they're coming home, they're coming,England's coming home.
Whee
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Sorry Valentino, but I disagree wholeheartedly.
The commentary team don't have to be more impartial at all. If a neutral fan is watching the game via an English broadcaster - then they should accept that the commentators are going to be hoping that their side win.
Why exactly should they be impartial?
HawkeyeMS
Ryder Cup Winner
My tuppence worth...
1) Ballatelli was England's best player
2) Rooney shouldn't have been on the pitch
3) Why did all our players look like they were running through custard?
4) We made Italy look a lot better than they are
5) Germany must have loved it - whoever went through they will spank
Hodgson can now get rid of some of the deadwood and get Wilshere, Cahill, Walker et al in the team for the WC
1) Ballatelli was England's best player
2) Rooney shouldn't have been on the pitch
3) Why did all our players look like they were running through custard?
4) We made Italy look a lot better than they are
5) Germany must have loved it - whoever went through they will spank
Hodgson can now get rid of some of the deadwood and get Wilshere, Cahill, Walker et al in the team for the WC
Whee
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Agree with everything you said Hawkeye. With regards to number 3, I didn't hear how hot it was, but our boys looked like they were struggling big time after just 15 minutes.
I hope the clearout actually does happen this time round, because it certainly didn't after Seth Efrica.
StuartD
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English broadcaster!!!
Since when did the BBC stand for English broadcasting corporation
To be fair though when Scotland play BBC Scotland put their own commentary team in place and they are just as biased. Down south you don't really see it as you usually still get an English commentary team covering the game. Maybe BBC Scotland should pay the money and send their own comentary team to cover England games
chrisd
Major Champion
I thought England were strong, powerful, moved the ball well and troubled the opposition throughout the match. They dominated play and looked dangerous going forward and it was a matter of sheer luck that the opponents held out for a draw.
Thats enough about the rugby ............ now what about the football?
Oh yes....... we were clueless after the first 15 mins
Thats enough about the rugby ............ now what about the football?
Oh yes....... we were clueless after the first 15 mins
Tiger
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I think what a lot of people fail to recognise is how football is coached in this country. 11v11 from a young age played at a frenetic tempo, with dads bellowing from the sideline to 'give it some welly' or. 'get it in the mixer'.
Loads of people slate Rooney. Put him in the Spanish team and watch him come alive. A lot of these players are better at club level because of the international class of their team mates.
We are technically inferior BUT if you are hard to beat and don't concede you'll always have a chance. And we did create chances. I think this team can improve but Hodgson needed a squad. With Lampard and Barry in the squad Gerrard and Parker could have had more rest. That was their 4th match in 12 days and they hardly had the ball in any of them. Chasing shadows in high temperatures when you are over 30 is not easy...
As for the commentary, Lawrenson needs to be put out of his misery!!!
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Scottjd1
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Cant stand Lawrenson.
Rooney was on Pirli first 15-20 mins and he was largely impotent, then we had good possession and played well. Rooney look dead on his feet after about 30 minutes, don't get it, all this 'match-fit' talk- he wasn't injured, so why wasn't he ultra sharp. Weird???
As a team England are pedestrian and lazy, until they learn that the least important person on the pitch is the one with the ball, and it's the movement and space created by your team mates then we will always look awful.
Glad we are out, based on a more tiresome performance against Germany, had we won the penalties, would have led to a bit of a semi-final hammering..
Rooney was on Pirli first 15-20 mins and he was largely impotent, then we had good possession and played well. Rooney look dead on his feet after about 30 minutes, don't get it, all this 'match-fit' talk- he wasn't injured, so why wasn't he ultra sharp. Weird???
As a team England are pedestrian and lazy, until they learn that the least important person on the pitch is the one with the ball, and it's the movement and space created by your team mates then we will always look awful.
Glad we are out, based on a more tiresome performance against Germany, had we won the penalties, would have led to a bit of a semi-final hammering..
chrisd
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Whee
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English broadcaster!!!
Since when did the BBC stand for English broadcasting corporation
To be fair though when Scotland play BBC Scotland put their own commentary team in place and they are just as biased. Down south you don't really see it as you usually still get an English commentary team covering the game. Maybe BBC Scotland should pay the money and send their own comentary team to cover England games
Yeah fair call, didn't engage brain before putting that, but you see the point I was making.
I wasn't watching the BBC coverage, haven't done all tournament, but I can imagine how biased they've been.
Marshy77
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Spot on, you either coach or have played football I guess. We were poor and until we totally try sort out our grass roots system and wipe it clean and start a fresh we will always be 5/6 best team in Europe unfortunately. Possession is key and we didn't string 4 passes together until the Rooney overhead kick. Italy dominated possession while we chased around.
