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Electric trolleys should be banned !!!!!

You shouldnt be walking over greens with your bag either, you should be walking round the apron of the green with your bag not across it!

The prosecution: A green is an exalted piece of turf that we are privileged to set foot upon, and tromping across it with a golf bag causes extra damage, especially if you slip, or the strap breaks. It shows a lack of respect - to the course, the staff, and your fellow golfers.

The defense: It's no big deal, it speeds up play, and it doesn't hurt the grass (a bag weighs only 25 pounds). Sometimes it's practically unavoidable, like if you go long and left at one of those huge St. Andrews double greens.

The verdict: Walking on the green with your bag should be avoided, but occasionally circumstances allow it.

Bad manners?......(coughs and considers)......probably, but it's only a once in a blue moon thing...

Thanks for bringing this to my attention.....

Now in amongst all the posts on this subject what is written above must the the biggest pile of tosh out the whole lot!
A guy weighing 12 stone walking over a green with a bag on his back shouldn't walk over the green for exactly what reason??In fact even a fat ba##ard weighing 24 stone with a bag on his back shouldn't for what reason exactly?? :D :D

I thought this would go down well. :D

It's not my "work", I just C&P some random stuff I found on a website dicussing the fors and againsts.....

I have to admit to being completely stumped.....I only want to do what is correct (from an etiquette point of view).

Help me!
 
What about if all of your clubs have graphite shafts?

They don't weigh as much as steel shafts, so are you allowed on the green with your bag on your back in that case?
 
When I first started, the first rule of ettiquette ( spelling ??? ) was to repair two pitchmarks on every green.

It doesn't hold up play, and if everyone did it, would benefit everyone.

How much do pitchmark repairers cost nowadays ?

As for walking across greens with bags. I've just managed to lose a stone and a half - does that mean I can carry my bag now ;)

My opinion says basically that you can't putt while carrying your bag, so you should get it to your exit point asap on approaching the green, and then leave it there while you do your chipping and putting.

Ideally protect the green by not walking on it until you need to, but if you are going to hold up play, walk across, of green ( how many courses have greens so big you can't walk round then in pretty much the same time )

But then I spoke to someone who said, if everyone walks around the edges of the green, the apron will become all worn and muddy.

So which is worse, I dunno.









There's only one way to find out..........
 
This is getting ridiculous.

Anyone who carries their bag whilst on the green, .....shouldnt. Its just not neccessary, even if only tending the flag, and besides, why ? Even if you've putted, why pick up a bag before everyone else has putted out ?
I know it would hack me off, it looks bad and seems that you're very impatient.
As you approach the green, trolleys, bags, whatever, should be placed somewhere convenient for when you walk off the green to next tee, unless you are off the green on the other side.

We have had white lines keeping trolleys away from greens all winter, but now removed, so can go anywhere.
But we all know they dont go across fringes/greens/tees, it strikes me there are lots on here that perhaps dont !????
 
What if its quicker to walk over the green with a bag to the next tee?

I shall continue to carry my bag over the greens, though I only do so on the way to either the next tee or dropping my bag off to clear the green faster.
 
Just to add fuel to the fire.....whilst on the green, who crosses their leg so all their weight goes onto one foot or heel? Or leans on their putter while taking the ball out of the hole?


Now if a 17 stone man does this with a 2 stone bag on..........aaahhh forget it. :D :D :D
 
just walk on and off the green really really fast and twinkle toed and there will be no problem at all! ;)
That's true, scientifically it's a well known fact that the faster you move the less pressure you exert
 
Just to add fuel to the fire.....whilst on the green, who crosses their leg so all their weight goes onto one foot or heel? Or leans on their putter while taking the ball out of the hole?


Now if a 17 stone man does this with a 2 stone bag on..........aaahhh forget it. :D :D :D

Guilty Of the crossed legs thing, though I do stand in the fringe. When someones on the green putting I try ont to be on the green but in the fringe or off all together. I wouldn't want my personal space encroched upon, so try not to do it to others. & on the green or tee, personal space boundries seem to expand tenfold to how they might be on any other normal day & situation.

I'll admit to having used the putter in the past as an extra balance aid. Though something I know better about these days.

Only time a putter head will dip into a cup is when the cup is full of water & only then being very careful not to touch the sides/edge of the cup. Don't want to damage it.

The arguments against wearing of the standbag on the green is not so much about the aditional weight but a matter of bad form. I think most of us (I'd hope) would be aware of when we're doing something that is bad form. walking away towards the next teebox or even picking up a bag to do so whilst others are putting is a prime example. One I think most of us have been guilty of at least nearly doing & then something stops us, because we know its a foepar. (sp)

As I say the additional weight issue is an aside. Its the bad form issue thats in question for me.

As for my mate who carrys onto greens & then procedes to wander & tend flags & drop pins. Well virtually fling tbqh. I have suggested wouldn't it be easier to put the bag down first (in an effort to be diplomatic) But I usually just grit my teeth & let him get on with it, like most others would. As I know he wouldn't be told even if I did make an issue of it. So no point on the course stiring it up.
 
just walk on and off the green really really fast and twinkle toed and there will be no problem at all! ;)
That's true, scientifically it's a well known fact that the faster you move the less pressure you exert

Depends how heavy footed you are at running :eek:

Actually Not really the done thing to run.

Even deliberate & light steps at a reasonable pace do work at reducing impact & this is in my mind what matters.

Standing on tip toes is actually going to dig in more. Though I know the twinkle toes thing was a phoseciase (sp) comment. The more you spread weight over a large surface area the better

Oh & before someone mentions snow shoes & ski's don't bother :rolleyes:

As I said before I'm sure most will know instinctively whats right & when they are commiting an error of bad form.
 
Just to add fuel to the fire.....whilst on the green, who crosses their leg so all their weight goes onto one foot or heel? Or leans on their putter while taking the ball out of the hole?


Now if a 17 stone man does this with a 2 stone bag on..........aaahhh forget it. :D :D :D






As for my mate who carrys onto greens & then procedes to wander & tend flags & drop pins. Well virtually fling tbqh. I have suggested wouldn't it be easier to put the bag down first (in an effort to be diplomatic) But I usually just grit my teeth & let him get on with it, like most others would. As I know he wouldn't be told even if I did make an issue of it. So no point on the course stiring it up.

I reckon he does this just to wind you up, I know I would. ;)
 
Homer - how on earth are you going to condense all this lot into your next forum spread in the mag... unless we were to try and put together a supplement, perhaps sponsored by Weight Watchers??
 
Just to add fuel to the fire.....whilst on the green, who crosses their leg so all their weight goes onto one foot or heel? Or leans on their putter while taking the ball out of the hole?


Now if a 17 stone man does this with a 2 stone bag on..........aaahhh forget it. :D :D :D






As for my mate who carrys onto greens & then procedes to wander & tend flags & drop pins. Well virtually fling tbqh. I have suggested wouldn't it be easier to put the bag down first (in an effort to be diplomatic) But I usually just grit my teeth & let him get on with it, like most others would. As I know he wouldn't be told even if I did make an issue of it. So no point on the course stiring it up.

I reckon he does this just to wind you up, I know I would. ;)

Although a pet hate, it's one I was able to let go of that day whilst he was doing it. There are other types of gamesmanship that would have more effect on me, though not divulging them here & now.

Though I do know what gets to him & with an inward grin he got both gamesmanshop barrels that particular day...

Oh & I made the 20ft+ putt anyway & he missed his tapin. Just shows what good it did him to keep his bag on his back on the green & he still had to walk off to put it down & get his putter to miss his.

:rolleyes: :D
 
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