Electric trolleys should be banned !!!!!

[madandra]

I played Colville Park in Motherwell on Friday and noticed the wear at the side of each tee was all down to trolleys. If 10 bag carrying golfers all approach a tee and depart they will use quite a large area but trolley users use the same wee bit of grass at the side of the tee. Surely trolley use adds to the problem whereas bag carrying golfers can disperse in all directions.

 

[RGDave]

You shouldnt be walking over greens with your bag either, you should be walking round the apron of the green with your bag not across it!

The prosecution: A green is an exalted piece of turf that we are privileged to set foot upon, and tromping across it with a golf bag causes extra damage, especially if you slip, or the strap breaks. It shows a lack of respect - to the course, the staff, and your fellow golfers.

The defense: It's no big deal, it speeds up play, and it doesn't hurt the grass (a bag weighs only 25 pounds). Sometimes it's practically unavoidable, like if you go long and left at one of those huge St. Andrews double greens.

The verdict: Walking on the green with your bag should be avoided, but occasionally circumstances allow it.

Bad manners?......(coughs and considers)......probably, but it's only a once in a blue moon thing...

Thanks for bringing this to my attention.....

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PS, have I told you the story of Miss mini-RGDave holing out (I was lost in a bunker somewhere, like something from a cigar advert) and then doing cartwheels in celebration at winning the hole!!!

Whoops.....

PS, I'm not anti-trolleys, I just can't persuade HID to let me buy a GoKart.......

 

[Dodger]

You shouldnt be walking over greens with your bag either, you should be walking round the apron of the green with your bag not across it!

The prosecution: A green is an exalted piece of turf that we are privileged to set foot upon, and tromping across it with a golf bag causes extra damage, especially if you slip, or the strap breaks. It shows a lack of respect - to the course, the staff, and your fellow golfers.

The defense: It's no big deal, it speeds up play, and it doesn't hurt the grass (a bag weighs only 25 pounds). Sometimes it's practically unavoidable, like if you go long and left at one of those huge St. Andrews double greens.

The verdict: Walking on the green with your bag should be avoided, but occasionally circumstances allow it.

Bad manners?......(coughs and considers)......probably, but it's only a once in a blue moon thing...

Thanks for bringing this to my attention.....

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PS, have I told you the story of Miss mini-RGDave holing out (I was lost in a bunker somewhere, like something from a cigar advert) and then doing cartwheels in celebration at winning the hole!!!

Whoops.....

PS, I'm not anti-trolleys, I just can't persuade HID to let me buy a GoKart.......

Now in amongst all the posts on this subject what is written above must the the biggest pile of tosh out the whole lot!
A guy weighing 12 stone walking over a green with a bag on his back shouldn't walk over the green for exactly what reason??In fact even a fat ba##ard weighing 24 stone with a bag on his back shouldn't for what reason exactly??

 

[CrapHacker]

Yes

 

[jeffc]

I think proffesionals shouldn't allow their caddies on the greens, think of all that extra wear and tear

 

[Parmo]

You shouldnt be walking over greens with your bag either, you should be walking round the apron of the green with your bag not across it!

Utter crap...

If I weigh 15 stone and my bag 2 stone so a total of 17 stone and my playing partner is 17 stone does this mean he shouldn’t be on the green? If carrying your bag over the green saves time and is the obvious thing to do then, do it. I don't see the argument in people complaining about carrying a bag over the green, it doesn’t damage the green anymore than usual wear, it speeds play up, its good not bad etiquette.

What next, the argument that spikes damage the green more than cleats? Utter rubbish.

 

[USER1999]

I don't like to see people walking with bags onto the green.

Surely more weight equals more wear. Now you can't lighten the golfer, but you shouldn't deliberately make yourself heavier either. Foot prints will be deeper, and take longer to recover, especially in wet conditions.

If excess un-necessary weight doesn't damage the green, why can't I take my trolley onto it? Especially if it is a 3 wheeled push trolley?

 

[Dodger]

Er cos they leave wheel marks murph....try looking down a fairway and see the damage they do to fairways be it 2,3 or 4 wheeled models.Trying to say you shouldn't walk over a green with a bag on your back is nothing short of ludicrous.

 

[JezzE]

Madandra wins this month's star prize for stirring up the proverbial hornet's nest! His prize - a PowaKaddy trolley complete with top-of-the-range Titleist Staff Tour bag...

Sitting on the fence, and seeing most sides to all arguments (except the walking over the green with your bag one), live and let live, I say

 

[Dodger]

Aye pure class Andy,you canny beat a good stramash!

 

[Parmo]

I think more to the point it is people on friendly rounds putting out from within 2-3 feet cause the damage to the greens, go out at the end of the day on a weekend in the summer and see the damage done in a 2-3 foot radius of the hole.

The worst of all offenders is the refuse to repair or look for their own pitch marks on green. I would say about 60% of people who repair them lift the turf rather than push or pull the turf over the pitchmark, which in dry weather leaves bold patches all over the greens. (this has given me an idea for the start of the season).

 

[Deleted member 1147]

I think more to the point it is people on friendly rounds putting out from within 2-3 feet cause the damage to the greens, go out at the end of the day on a weekend in the summer and see the damage done in a 2-3 foot radius of the hole.

Yeah, they keep on making me 3 & 4 putt

 

[Cernunnos]

Yeah Parmo, there is no excuse for not repairing a pitchmark on a green, whether its yours or someone elses. Even if you've forgotten or can't find your pitchmark repairer there is usually a selection of long tee seither in a pocket or the bag. & everyone carrys a set of keys with at least one door key or RAC/AA Key they no longer use. They make great pitchmark reparers in an emergency.

On most social rounds putts would be given anyhow. Though I'd think most of us for our own self respect would rather finish off a hole properly. Of course this is one reason why Green staff move hole positions regularly.

On the subject of Walking across greens with bags on your back I have a mate who really makes me grind my teeth. As he'll litterally walk anywhere with that bag on his back. He'll walk all over the green, tend the flag, take it out drop the flag instead of placing it. Oh this is another bug bear. People who don't lay the flag & preferably lay it in the fringe, they insted drop it on the green. Okay you are allowed to put it on the green but I consider it discurtious & rude. Just as I consider it discurtous & rude to walk all over a green with the standbag on, instead of using the bag as it was intended. The bag has legs use them. sit the damn thing down away from the green. If there are notices all over the course & on the back of the score card about not taking bags onto teeboxes it goes without saying the same is true for greens.

Okay a 17 stone bloke is going to do as much potential damage to a course as a 15 stone man with a 2 stone bag, except the centre of ballance with the 15 stone man will be all out of kilter. The 17 stone man doesn't have a choice. He can't take his stomach & blubber off when he gets to a green, but the 15 stone dude, can take off a bag & use the legs if its a stand bag & if its a tourbag then its designed to be dumped on the ground near, & not on the green.

Using Tour caddys as an example/excuse for getting away with discurtiousness to the course is no excuse at all in my book.

Nevermind turning up at courses with a handicap I think people should take a mini exam on Course ettiquete & a practical examination on how to repair pitchmarks, divots, rake bunkers etc & then get a card of course competence on knowing this & basic essential rules of the game

Players should be made to keep & carry & present one of these instead of simply a handicap certificate.

 

[thecraw]

Utter crap or pure pish at best is it?

I would advise that you look at your clubs etiquette again.

 

[Dodger]

Well I walk up the green with bag on back,I tend the pin with bag on back,I lay pin on green after I have taken it out,I play in all sorts of golf comps from County events to friendly knock abouts and have yet to hear that any of that is discurtious or rude from anyone or indeed seen/heard anything at any of the 200 plus golf clubs I have played saying this so I shall continue to do so until a ruling is made saying you must do otherwise and that is never going to happen as it is a pish arguement to suggest that all these things should be adhered to!Centre of balance my arse.
Utter utter nonsence.

 

[Deleted member 1147]

So we are going to ban overweight golfers, to protect the course?

Or, we could make it that they cannot use electric trolleys so that they lose weight with the effort of carrying. Meanwhile those with racing snake figures, like myself, can use them if we see fit!

 

[thecraw]

Whats utter pish about it?

Your heavier with your clubs on your back causing deeper indentations on the greens which take longer to repair?

Its fairly logical, and big deal if I or Joe Fatty weighs 8 stone more, that cant be helped, removing your golf bag can.

 

[Parmo]

This thread is really making me have second thoughts about getting an electric trolley lol.

 

[Robobum]

So we are going to ban overweight golfers, to protect the course?

No, just a cull of fat people in general

 

[Cernunnos]

Well I walk up the green with bag on back,I tend the pin with bag on back,I lay pin on green after I have taken it out,I play in all sorts of golf comps from County events to friendly knock abouts and have yet to hear that any of that is discurtious or rude from anyone or indeed seen/heard anything at any of the 200 plus golf clubs I have played saying this so I shall continue to do so until a ruling is made saying you must do otherwise and that is never going to happen as it is a pish arguement to suggest that all these things should be adhered to!Centre of balance my arse.
Utter utter nonsence.

Did I get your back up..?

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