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Edinburgh trams........scrapped?

we have a tram system here that was originally put in place to@

Link Beckenham, Mitcham, Croydon, Wimbledon & Addington

Make commuting to main train stations quicker

and most importantly provide low cost travel.

since then the prices have over doubled, its now cheaper for 4 people to break a taxi between them rather than a trap, so the scheme was bloody pointless.
 
The whole thing is an absolute p£ss Take!!
Total sham, they couldnt organise a p%ss up in a brewery.
The headaches its caused to Edinburgh residents/businesses let alone the money its cost has been staggering.

The city's got one of the best most modern bus networks in Europe and they think trams are the way forward?? remind me why most city's in the uk scrapped trams 40 odd years ago...
 
we have a tram system here that was originally put in place to@

Link Beckenham, Mitcham, Croydon, Wimbledon & Addington

Make commuting to main train stations quicker

and most importantly provide low cost travel.

since then the prices have over doubled, its now cheaper for 4 people to break a taxi between them rather than a trap, so the scheme was bloody pointless.
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Plus, why on God's green earth would people living in Wimbledon want to travel to Croydon?? Worst still New Addington??

If any of us ever had a car nicked, the first place you looked was New Addington!! :cool:

That tram scheme was a nonsense from the start and someone, somewhere made a shed load of cash out of it!! :o

When England lost to France at Euro 2004 a mini riot broke out in Croydon. It started in the Walkabout pub. The 'fans' decided to take their angst to the street. A tram was bimblin down the hill so the protagonists decided to try and tip it over. It held it's ground. Shame. :eek:
 
AW, I think the addington link was due to biggin hill plans to become more of a passenger terminal for local euro and uk flights. the old cunningham pub was under offer from travel-lodge or simular effectively being a half way house right next to the tram link, and was going to run shuttle buses to the air port.

Its handy for when we fancy a lads night out in wimbledown or such as we can hop on teh tram and off we go, but alot of money was wasted in shirley along with compulsary purchases left righ and centre on houses that were effected. id love to know how much it cost, as you said someone somewhere made fortuntes.
 
Wasn't it also so that the good people of Croydon would have access to the tube network at Wimbledon.

I don't understand this tram fascination.

They were great in the 30s and 40s - they've got no place in this day and age!!
 
i think to be honest there was 150 reasons why it should have been put in, 149 of them was sh1te.

if they said honestly:

" we are trying to boost contruction work, and Mr***** will make a mint from letting it pass " they may have earned more respect.
 
Whilst it was being constructed I worked in Croydon and I saw one of the most brilliant things.

As with all of these construction projects there's normally a lot of local objection and this was no different.

Every day, come rain or shine, this old fella - he must have been 80 - would sit right by the construction workers with his 'No to the Tram' sign and his petition. Every day he made me smile.

His one man protest failed but only in Britain would you see such protestations.
 
The fascination is usually a rose (or should I say Green) tinted glasses thing - clean, pollution free, quiet, cheap (!).
Quite a few tram systems do operate on the continent (and they are cheap) but what the dreamers forget is that these systems were put in at a time of massive rebuilding - most of the obstructions and obstacles (houses) were either already in ruins or heading that way. To a point, the cities grew around the transport links.
 
pollution free
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That old chestnut..?

Obviously, the Edinburgh trams run on free range electricity produced by non pollution emmiting power stations that run on magic beans.

And the infrastructure is build with magic concrete that doesn't pollute like the normal stuff (1 tonne of cement makes 1 tonne of CO2 during it's production).

And the builders use magic carpets to get to and from work.

The most efficiant, greenest way of wasting half a billion pounds would be to burn fcuking lot at source along with the spiteful, vengeful twunts that forced the trams through because we dared to oppose their congestion charge.
 
pollution free
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That old chestnut..?

Obviously, the Edinburgh trams run on free range electricity produced by non pollution emmiting power stations that run on magic beans.

And the infrastructure is build with magic concrete that doesn't pollute like the normal stuff (1 tonne of cement makes 1 tonne of CO2 during it's production).

And the builders use magic carpets to get to and from work.

The most efficiant, greenest way of wasting half a billion pounds would be to burn fcuking lot at source along with the spiteful, vengeful twunts that forced the trams through because we dared to oppose their congestion charge.
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And it will still be a long walk from the Maybury to the Airport. Why stop the trams two miles from the terminal?
 
i dont think any of the Croydon constructors made any profit out of it; the concessionaire sold its long term ownership back to TfL a long while back.

It actually was very successful at least for the first 5 or so years at least, in terms of achiveing a massive "modal shift" from car use to tram use, much more so than other modern tram schems. It is always packed when i have used it.

But i dont know whether TfL actually make any money out of it these days, and if they are putting up teh prices that ain't great, although i expect that has something to do with teh recession.

Still the extensions were still on teh cards last year - i dont kwno where they have got to in teh spending review.


Anyway, if any of you lot want a tour of gold courses in South-East London, you can't do better than get on a tram to New addington :)
 
Would not read too much into this.

The dispute started and work stopped when he was in charge. The two companies failed to resolve it and mediators had to be brought in.

Think he has been allowed to resign and save face tbh
 
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