Eco warriors.

[Papas1982]

I have all but given up meat
I take public transport to work and walk to the shops and carry my food home
Yes i grow a selection of fruit an veg
I religiously turn as much stuff off in my house as I can rather than leave it on standby
I wear a jumper when its cold rather than turn the heating up
I ensure all my food is responsibly sourced and as local as possible, rather the stuff that flown half way round the world or caused a huge swath of rain forest to be destroyed to produce it.
I lobby my MP to get big business to make changes to how the
I go on rallies to get the message to others.

There is plenty more I could list if it makes you happier?

So what are you doing....

None of the above.
You’ll see the reasons why are in an earlier response.
Actually I do wear an extra layer if I’m cold.

As to making me happier. I was simply curious as you’d skirted the question once already.

 

[robinthehood]

Here’s the question though. Honestly. Do you car share to save a few quid each month (not saying you need to), or so you’ve got company on the commute, or because you want to help the environment?

I take my mate to work too, simply because parking is a ball ache. I eat meat in almost every meal because I like it.
Whilst I don’t look to waste resources, in the grand scheme of things the uk is already doing a better job than most in reducing. Add that to the fact that corporations will be the biggest contributor and it just isn’t something I concern myself with.

The problem is that we have already done the damage and all we can do now is mitigate it. Its going to cost a lot to put it right, but it has to start somewhere.
Watch the Attenborough program tonight at 9 and see whats already happening.

 

[Papas1982]

The problem is that we have already done the damage and all we can do now is mitigate it. Its going to cost a lot to put it right, but it has to start somewhere.
Watch the Attenborough program tonight at 9 and see whats already happening.

I’m aware of it. I don’t have my head in the sand and deny it. I just think that even all the good intentions and ideas you live by are insignificant in regards to what corporations and other countries are doing, or not as the case may be.

 

[robinthehood]

None of the above.
You’ll see the reasons why are in an earlier response.
Actually I do wear an extra layer if I’m cold.

As to making me happier. I was simply curious as you’d skirted the question once already.

Not skirting , i asked and all i got were disappointing smart arsed replies

 

[USER1999]

The problem is that we have already done the damage and all we can do now is mitigate it. Its going to cost a lot to put it right, but it has to start somewhere.
Watch the Attenborough program tonight at 9 and see whats already happening.

Sure, but our bit is peeing in the wind compared to the main offenders. If the UK disappeared off the planet tomorrow, environmentally, it would make zero difference.

China is getting better, as I go there often enough. Air quality is better each time I go. But it is going to take time. To them, this is their industrial revolution. We have had ours.

 

[robinthehood]

I’m aware of it. I don’t have my head in the sand and deny it. I just think that even all the good intentions and ideas you live by are insignificant in regards to what corporations and other countries are doing, or not as the case may be.

Make small changes and encourage other to do the same, it does make a difference.

 

[SocketRocket]

The problem is that we have already done the damage and all we can do now is mitigate it. Its going to cost a lot to put it right, but it has to start somewhere.
Watch the Attenborough program tonight at 9 and see whats already happening.

Its pretty pointless really, the problem is overpopulation of the Planet by the Human race. There are just too many of us and we are doing nothing to reduce numbers, they are set to increase dramatically making the problem exponentially worse. We can fiddle around with meat eating and wind farms but it will never be enough. If we dont do something to reduce population then the planet will do it for us. Cause and effect.

 

[Bunkermagnet]

Make small changes and encourage other to do the same, it does make a difference.

I dont disagree, but technology is hugely damaging to the enviroment, but I never hear one protester or activist advocating doing away with mobile phones etc etc, which is all made in China becasue the World has been stupid enough to give them all the production of everything.

 

[USER1999]

We also live in a very disposable society. We need a new phone every two years, or a new car, or a new telly. Clothes are almost wear once and bin for a lot of people. We buy too much food, and bin it.

Air travel is way too cheap compared to the damage it causes, but we do like cheap foreign holidays.

Yes, we can make a difference, and it does add up, but it doesn't add up to enough to make a global difference unless every body does it, and they don't.

 

[robinthehood]

Its pretty pointless really, the problem is overpopulation of the Planet by the Human race. There are just too many of us and we are doing nothing to reduce numbers, they are set to increase dramatically making the problem exponentially worse. We can fiddle around with meat eating and wind farms but it will never be enough. If we dont do something to reduce population then the planet will do it for us. Cause and effect.

100% its our fault, but as culling the human race isn't an option then we need to look at other ways to fix it. Maybe there will be some scientific break throughs int he area of energy production, fusion or other such stuff, maybe carbon capture and storage.
Untill then we are moving ever close to a point of no return and i dread to think what that looks like.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Its pretty pointless really, the problem is overpopulation of the Planet by the Human race. There are just too many of us and we are doing nothing to reduce numbers, they are set to increase dramatically making the problem exponentially worse. We can fiddle around with meat eating and wind farms but it will never be enough. If we dont do something to reduce population then the planet will do it for us. Cause and effect.

Sorry but reduce human numbers ? How do you think we should do that ?

 

[Deleted member 21784]

Here’s the question though. Honestly. Do you car share to save a few quid each month (not saying you need to), or so you’ve got company on the commute, or because you want to help the environment?

I take my mate to work too, simply because parking is a ball ache. I eat meat in almost every meal because I like it.
Whilst I don’t look to waste resources, in the grand scheme of things the uk is already doing a better job than most in reducing. Add that to the fact that corporations will be the biggest contributor and it just isn’t something I concern myself with.

To save money and because I think he is a bad driver so it’s better if I drive so he is off the road

We pair together for nights most of times out of year .... so I say u drive the first night (so he feels like he helping and also first nights the killer) and the other 6 I’ll drive

Adds up

He drove for me for 2 weeks few months ago cuz he had his father in laws car and he wanted to make it up to me.. saved me £50 of petrol.. bought me dinner aswell lol because I swapped desks with him and did the harder desk cuz he hates the Agro

 

[SocketRocket]

100% its our fault, but as culling the human race isn't an option then we need to look at other ways to fix it. Maybe there will be some scientific break throughs int he area of energy production, fusion or other such stuff, maybe carbon capture and storage.
Untill then we are moving ever close to a point of no return and i dread to think what that looks like.

Rather than culling we should be working to reduce population, if we dont then (as I suggested) nature will do it for us. From the planets and the animal kingdoms point of view it would be utopia if we weren't here.

 

[SocketRocket]

Sorry but reduce human numbers ? How do you think we should do that ?

Dont be sorry. Shall I draw you a picture 🙄
An easy way is keep massively increasing numbers and let famine and climate do it for us.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

Shall I draw you a picture 🙄

No thanks but you can answer the question asked

 

[williamalex1]

They are idiots who know nothing.

The top 5 poluters are China, 30%, USA, 15%, India, 7%, Russia 5%, and Japan at 4%.

The UK is in 15th place. Poor, yes, but really pretty irrelevant.

The top 5 is 61% of the worlds polution.

We could all live in yurts, knitting vegan yogurt, and it will make pretty much no difference.

Yes, the UK could raise awareness, and probably does, but it is not going to suddenly make the big boys change their ways. Only protests in their own countries will achieve this.

Completely agree with all you say, plus they're actually making things worse by bringing traffic to a stand still with more cars and lorry engines sitting idling and causing even more pollution. Their intentions are good, but there must be a better way.

 

[SocketRocket]

No thanks but you can answer the question asked

An easy way is keep increasing numbers and let climate change do it for us. If you think its impossible to encourage less births in the world then you have no chance with reducing emissions.

 

[Deleted member 15344]

An easy way is keep increasing numbers and let climate change do it for us. If you think its impossible to encourage less births in the world then you have no chance with reducing emissions.

I asked a simple question based on your statement of reducing the population numbers

So how would you reduce the population ?

 

[Foxholer]

Made a few years ago, but still appropriate.

http://criticalmassfilm.com/

 

[SocketRocket]

I asked a simple question based on your statement of reducing the population numbers

So how would you reduce the population ?

Heres a link to someone who convinced me, you may have heard of him
https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2018...h-warns-planet-cant-cope-with-overpopulation/

I'm explaining the problem, its not up to me how to solve it, that's a job for world leaders to manage. I guess you have to reward low birth rates and penalise high ones.