Eco warriors.

robinthehood said:
Its tricky for sure, there are a lot of small things we can all do (or not), which if enough of us do then it can, would make a difference.

Eat less meat
Walk instead of driving where you can etc
Consider the environmental impact of what you buy - sustainable source and the like
use less energy

the list goes on

Its easy to dismiss it as an issue for other countries, but if we don't act now our kids and grand kidds will be the ones who really suffer.
We are pushing the planet down a path from which it will probably recover, but we wont.
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Definitely not gonna argue with any of your points but having been brave enough to travel to vietnam, Cambodia and Thailand over the last couple of years. There stance on pollution is shocking. Indonesia in 10-20 years is going to be one of the biggest economy’s in the world. It is atrocious re the economy. China, don't get me started. It is one of my biggest bug beats what that country gets away with. These folk in London and elsewhere they have a massive point but it seems to me they are targetting the wrong people. A few windows put through at the chinese and USA Embassy might just highlight there cause a bit more.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Again didn’t answer the question

How would you reduce the population
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I am highlighting the problem just like Attinborough. I guess you encourage low birth rates and discourage high ones, its not my job to manage that, its the job for world leaders. As I said, if they don't nature will do it for them. I guess you want me to suggest we sterilise people. Keep trying 🙄
 
SocketRocket said:
I am highlighting the problem just like Attinborough. I guess you encourage low birth rates and discourage high ones, its not my job to manage that, its the job for world leaders. As I said, if they don't nature will do it for them. I guess you want me to suggest we sterilise people. Keep trying 🙄
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I’m not sure why you are struggling - you normally have an answer for everything 🙄 - it’s not your job in regards many other things but you don’t seem to have a problem making suggestions ?

You mentioned about reducing the population and I just asked you how you think that should be done and you just avoided avoided avoided the question

I’m not sure why tbh - didn’t seem a particularly tough question. If you didn’t have an answer why not just say that at the start
 
I "insert soo many swear words" hate these protesters. They are doing nothing to improve the environment. Please someone tell me if this protest changes anything save public opinion on them?
 
Liverpoolphil said:
I’m not sure why you are struggling - you normally have an answer for everything 🙄 - it’s not your job in regards many other things but you don’t seem to have a problem making suggestions ?

You mentioned about reducing the population and I just asked you how you think that should be done and you just avoided avoided avoided the question

I’m not sure why tbh - didn’t seem a particularly tough question. If you didn’t have an answer why not just say that at the start
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Are you being a bit thick or just arguementative , I suspect its the latter. Do you make that accusation to David Attinborough? I never avoided the question I made my answer quite clear and if you think the solution is easy then you surprise me with your naivety. Did you even bother to read the link I posted from Attinborough and how he explains the problem with population increase and global warming. Heres an excerpt from his comments..

"As for controlling population growth, the education of women is one key factor. Research shows the higher level to which a woman is educated, the fewer children she is likely to have. In Ghana, for example, women who have been to high school, have a fertility rate of between two and three children, compared with six for those who have no education.
This could be for several reasons including learning about desired family size and understanding child health better. This means that the mother is more confident her children will survive. She is also likely to hold more sway within the family, arguing for fewer children if that is what she wants."
 
SocketRocket said:
Are you being a bit thick or just arguementative , I suspect its the latter. Do you make that accusation to David Attinborough? I never avoided the question I made my answer quite clear and if you think the solution is easy then you surprise me with your naivety. Did you even bother to read the link I posted from Attinborough and how he explains the problem with population increase and global warming. Heres an excerpt from his comments..

"As for controlling population growth, the education of women is one key factor. Research shows the higher level to which a woman is educated, the fewer children she is likely to have. In Ghana, for example, women who have been to high school, have a fertility rate of between two and three children, compared with six for those who have no education.
This could be for several reasons including learning about desired family size and understanding child health better. This means that the mother is more confident her children will survive. She is also likely to hold more sway within the family, arguing for fewer children if that is what she wants."
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Umm i don’t recall disagreeing with Attenborough or indeed any population problems

I asked “YOU” - not Attenborough a simple question - and Attenborough’s article just states what he believes is the problem - again no real solutions

How would “YOU” reduce the population
What would be “YOUR” recommendations to reducing the population?

Christ it’s not hard is it , a simple question
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Umm i don’t recall disagreeing with Attenborough or indeed any population problems

I asked “YOU” - not Attenborough a simple question - and Attenborough’s article just states what he believes is the problem - again no real solutions

How would “YOU” reduce the population
What would be “YOUR” recommendations to reducing the population?

Christ it’s not hard is it , a simple question
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Encourage couples to have no more than 2 children by stopping any payments/allowances for a 3rd child
 
bobmac said:
In all countries ?
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Ah I see, unsure. I know the UK got rid. Are China still on the one baby policy?

I agree I never understand why people even want more than 2 kids! But that’s their choice I guess

Or has free will got us into this situation?
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Umm i don’t recall disagreeing with Attenborough or indeed any population problems

I asked “YOU” - not Attenborough a simple question - and Attenborough’s article just states what he believes is the problem - again no real solutions

How would “YOU” reduce the population
What would be “YOUR” recommendations to reducing the population?

Christ it’s not hard is it , a simple question
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Christ you must be blind, he has answered this at least twice, stop being a total troll.
 
robinthehood said:
And what can I ask are all you doing to avert the catastrophe of climate change and the general destruction of the environment? or are you happy to sit back hope someone else fixes it?
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Recycle, use the car less, reduce food waste and switch off lights appliances etc when not required, not much tbh

My issue with them is they chaos they cause and by blocking roads and disrupting transport the issues they cause for everyday folk trying to get on with their day.
Police resources tied up, other emergency services being re-routed putting lives at risk.

Why pick on joe average? I don’t believe any protester gets sympathy when they do this, why not wait until Parliament is back in business or protest the Embassies of the worst offenders.
 
I've been listening to the BBC talking about this all day, and they totally avoided talking about the real issue. I've seen more common sense in SocketRocket's handful of posts than the rest of the media combined. Anything other than population control is a waste of time, and will probably encourage further overpopulation by hiding the true nature of the problem. Life's going to get very hard soon.
 
bobmac said:
Encourage couples to have no more than 2 children by stopping any payments/allowances for a 3rd child
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I think it’s something that’s already in place but you are also looking at a small percentage there.

Religion is a big issue in regards the stigma towards birth control - i wouldn’t be able to guess the amount of people who don’t believe in birth control or have no access to it. Education is mentioned by Attenborough by the area’s talking about are highly religious and also lots of poverty which a lot of times means no birth control

But that’s one area - the other is people are living longer due to the standard of living and later care being better - that’s not going to change in fact go the other way

Beyond “restricting” people to how many children they are allowed ( which I don’t believe is the right way ) - im not sure what can be actually done
 
Reemul said:
Christ you must be blind, he has answered this at least twice, stop being a total troll.
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Can you point out then where he said “twice” what he would do to reduce the population?

And to confirm a couple of posts appear to be edited and appear to be different from when I replied to them
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Umm i don’t recall disagreeing with Attenborough or indeed any population problems

I asked “YOU” - not Attenborough a simple question - and Attenborough’s article just states what he believes is the problem - again no real solutions

How would “YOU” reduce the population
What would be “YOUR” recommendations to reducing the population?

Christ it’s not hard is it , a simple question
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You're provoking an argument. I have explained my view to you, would you like me to explain thermo physics and how I would find a solution to the energy supply. Stop being a numpty.
 
Liverpoolphil said:
Can you point out then where he said “twice” what he would do to reduce the population?

And to confirm a couple of posts appear to be edited and appear to be different from when I replied to them
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Are you basically asking socket to say a way to cull the current population rather than stop future overcrowding?

If that’s the case I’ll bite. Stop idiot proofing the world. If people want to run level crossings. Go for it. Natural selection. One less moron to cause pollution
 
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