Driver stance ….?

[Swinglowandslow]

Hi.
Just watching golf at Abu Dhabi . Just saw Fleetwood, Sterne and the other chap, drive off and all had the ball teed up at least half way between their feet, if not a little towards their right foot!
As I understand the text book, it says in line with left heel.
I appreciate these things are individual, but they all did this.

Any reason you can’t think of why this way? Do they push through a lot of right wrist , maybe?

 

[Neilds]

Was it actually as far back as that or just the camera angle?

 

[Slab]

Can't speak for the Pros but I'm a middle of the stance with driver / 3w
All irons are back in stance

It's just what works for me

 

[garyinderry]

Makes it a little easier to draw the ball without having it so far forward.

You hit it earlier on the arc of the swing.

 

[bobmac]

Amateurs need help getting the ball in the air whereas pros don't

 

[kp17]

Shot shape will definitely dictate, a lot easier to move it right to left if set up further away from left heel

 

[Swinglowandslow]

Was it actually as far back as that or just the camera angle?

Yes - camera showed the tee markers at right angles, and facing straight on to players. It was definitely as stated, checked by several replays

 

[Lucifer MorningStar]

Was it definitely driver or perhaps mini driver. Playing it further back with the higher loft may give the flight and shape they want.

 

[VVega]

Hi.
Just watching golf at Abu Dhabi . Just saw Fleetwood, Sterne and the other chap, drive off and all had the ball teed up at least half way between their feet, if not a little towards their right foot!
As I understand the text book, it says in line with left heel.
I appreciate these things are individual, but they all did this.

Any reason you can’t think of why this way? Do they push through a lot of right wrist , maybe?

It’s the camera placement/angle. Having seen them up close at the Open - the ball was by front foot for all of them.

 

[Swinglowandslow]

Was it definitely driver or perhaps mini driver. Playing it further back with the higher loft may give the flight and shape they want.

Well , that’s possible.

It’s the camera placement/angle. Having seen them up close at the Open - the ball was by front foot for all of them.

No it wasn’t . I saw what I saw.
I have since found a YouTube tutorial advocating this stance, for shot shape reasons as some have alluded to.

 

[Orikoru]

Tommy has it in the normal position here:

So who knows - it might have been the mini driver you saw him hit, or he might have moved the position back a little to try and keep the flight down for one particular shot. Maybe the ball is flying too high over there and he wanted to lower it.

 

[Springveldt]

Makes it a little easier to draw the ball without having it so far forward.

You hit it earlier on the arc of the swing.

Shot shape will definitely dictate, a lot easier to move it right to left if set up further away from left heel

I'm the opposite, I need it past the left heel if I'm going to draw it, gives me more time to get the club faced closed. I'll aim way right and hit a pull draw. Don't do it often since it has disaster written all over it if I don't get the face closed.

I've got an out to in swing with my driver putting the ball back in my stance actually makes me cut it more as I'm catching it earlier and the face is more open.

 

[Orikoru]

I'm the opposite, I need it past the left heel if I'm going to draw it, gives me more time to get the club faced closed. I'll aim way right and hit a pull draw. Don't do it often since it has disaster written all over it if I don't get the face closed.

I've got an out to in swing with my driver putting the ball back in my stance actually makes me cut it more as I'm catching it earlier and the face is more open.

I think you might be weird. I also have an out to in swing, but this means if I have the ball too far up in line with my left foot, I slice it, because the club path is going so far left by this point that you swipe across the ball. I suppose you could hit a massive pull hook if you REALLY shut the face from there.

 

[Springveldt]

I think you might be weird. I also have an out to in swing, but this means if I have the ball to far up in line with my left foot, I slice it, because the club path is going so far left by this point that you swipe across the ball. I suppose you could hit a massive pull hook if you REALLY shut the face from there.

Bingo, that's why I aim miles right. By that point in the swing arc your face should be closed down unless you are hanging onto it and not releasing the club.

 

[Lucifer MorningStar]

Bingo, that's why I aim miles right. By that point in the swing arc your face should be closed down unless you are hanging onto it and not releasing the club.

That’s some serious trust your putting in your oath and face control

I absolutely love it

 

[Orikoru]

Bingo, that's why I aim miles right. By that point in the swing arc your face should be closed down unless you are hanging onto it and not releasing the club.

I think this is just how I play, I don't really release the clubhead over, I just use a strong grip and hold it all the way through. This has been producing a nice manageable fade for most of this year. And it means hooking it is extremely rare for me, which is ideal as I really don't like having a two-way miss. Worst I get going left is a straight pull, like 10 yards off the fairway if I'm aiming a bit too far left to start with.

 

[Springveldt]

That’s some serious trust your putting in your oath and face control

I absolutely love it

To be honest, I don't have that much trust. I can do it at my course just now as on 17 of the holes you can miss 60 yards left and be fine so if I'm going to do it I'll aim at the right side of the fairway and just let fly and know that the majority of the time I'm going to pull it or pull draw it. I'll usually only try it when the wind is off my right as well in case I balls it up then the wind will hold it. Most of the holes at my course have OB on the right so you don't really want to be leaking it that way.

When I go back to the parkland course I used to play at I'll probably never try and hit that shot as I would need to be aiming into the trees to hit it. I'll just be hitting my standard drives (some slight pulls, some slight pull fades) and hoping they end up 20 yards either side of where I'm aiming.

 

[sunshine]

To be honest, I don't have that much trust. I can do it at my course just now as on 17 of the holes you can miss 60 yards left and be fine so if I'm going to do it I'll aim at the right side of the fairway and just let fly and know that the majority of the time I'm going to pull it or pull draw it. I'll usually only try it when the wind is off my right as well in case I balls it up then the wind will hold it. Most of the holes at my course have OB on the right so you don't really want to be leaking it that way.

When I go back to the parkland course I used to play at I'll probably never try and hit that shot as I would need to be aiming into the trees to hit it. I'll just be hitting my standard drives (some slight pulls, some slight pull fades) and hoping they end up 20 yards either side of where I'm aiming.

That is pretty crazy that you can miss 60 yards left on 17 of the holes. I guess the same could be said about the Old Course.

With OOB down the right as well, it would be interesting to assess the shot shape of the members. I bet most have grooved an anti slice swing.

Total opposite, somebody once explained to me that all the courses designed by Colin Montgomerie have trouble down the left to suit his fade off the tee.

 

[Springveldt]

That is pretty crazy that you can miss 60 yards left on 17 of the holes. I guess the same could be said about the Old Course.

With OOB down the right as well, it would be interesting to assess the shot shape of the members. I bet most have grooved an anti slice swing.

Total opposite, somebody once explained to me that all the courses designed by Colin Montgomerie have trouble down the left to suit his fade off the tee.

To be fair it’s more because of course conditions this year as the rough never really got thick and juicy so you could find your ball most of the time or it would bounce through to the next fairway. Last year if you missed left you needed to send it over onto another fairway or else it was a lost ball, the rough was so thick and juicy just about any ball that hit it was lost.

 

[garyinderry]

That is pretty crazy that you can miss 60 yards left on 17 of the holes. I guess the same could be said about the Old Course.

With OOB down the right as well, it would be interesting to assess the shot shape of the members. I bet most have grooved an anti slice swing.

Total opposite, somebody once explained to me that all the courses designed by Colin Montgomerie have trouble down the left to suit his fade off the tee.

He played a lot of his junior golf at Ilkley Golf Club. The river runs down the left as you play the opening holes. No wonder he played a fade.