DQ offence?

[Foxholer]

What I meant was if the player can enter a comp but cant win it due to an inactive h/cap, does it matter whether its a board comp or not? Unless of course as I said, the comp was full and he was stopping someone else from playing who has an acrtive h/cap

Inactive players should be encouraged to play in comps - to become active again - but clubs are entitled to make restrictions on whether they can win prizes (as opposed to simply win). As part of the prize for a board/major competition is name on board/cup, inactive players might be excluded from this, just as they might be restricted from winning sweep money for 'normal' comps - but still head the ranking list.

 

[bobmac]

I have no problem with golfers playing in comps with inactive handicaps.
However, in my opinion, they should not be allowed to win anything.
No sweep money, names on boards....nothing.
They can play in comps to re-activate their h/caps yes, to win anything....definitely not.
If clubs even consider letting inactive h/cap players win anything, the whole point of 'inactive' would be lost.

 

[DCB]

I have no problem with golfers playing in comps with inactive handicaps.
However, in my opinion, they should not be allowed to win anything.
No sweep money, names on boards....nothing.
They can play in comps to re-activate their h/caps yes, to win anything....definitely not.
If clubs even consider letting inactive h/cap players win anything, the whole point of 'inactive' would be lost.

Aye, what he said

 

[garyinderry]

They should not have taken his money for the comp tho Duncan , the benifit of computerisation there should be a block on anyone that has not paid, that way anyone in garys position would be told before they played , you cant play or at least you are not eligable to win a prize , & he would have known & sorted it ..

exactly. in this day and age of computers and systems it should never have allowed me to enter the competition. if i had never won a prize, which is all together possible, then i would never have know about those additional subs and entered alot of comps without paying the £30 yearly club fee.

i think its because the club dont own the course. at my brothers place, the club own the course and therefore dont pay these additonal subs.

if it was highlighted to me then i could have paid with my debit card there and then.


in addition, the prize itself wasnt anything special it was only a small friday open. ive know the prizes to be as low as 30quid for the poorly stocked shop. it was the principle of the thing. they could have spoken to me in private and sorted the matter. they took my money, they should have paid up.

 

[rosecott]

Where does it say that he hadn't been playing enough qualifying comps? He states his h/c had become inactive as he hadn't paid the proper fees.

Your handicap doesn't become inactive for not paying the proper fees - you lose your handicap by not being a club member i.e. not paying fees. You can only become inactive by not playing in the minimum 3 qualifiers in a calendar year.

 

[bluewolf]

Your handicap doesn't become inactive for not paying the proper fees - you lose your handicap by not being a club member i.e. not paying fees. You can only become inactive by not playing in the minimum 3 qualifiers in a calendar year.

Rosecott, that was the point I was making. The OP unfortunately used the wrong terminology, then someone jumped on it and claimed that the OP was a poor member of a golf club.

 

[Jack991]

Got a reply from the club captain last night saying that the result stands and as far as he was aware there is a rule requiring players to initial their changes on a scorecard :S

 

[rosecott]

Got a reply from the club captain last night saying that the result stands and as far as he was aware there is a rule requiring players to initial their changes on a scorecard :S

Name and shame the club - the worst that can hapen is you are kicked out of the club.

 

[bobmac]

Got a reply from the club captain last night saying that the result stands and as far as he was aware there is a rule requiring players to initial their changes on a scorecard :S

How can I put this....
He is wrong

 

[chrisd]

Got a reply from the club captain last night saying that the result stands and as far as he was aware there is a rule requiring players to initial their changes on a scorecard :S

I wouldn't accept that. I would tell the Secretary that you plan to write in and challenge that decision and ask him to provide the evidence that supports the Captains assertion that it is a rule of golf. It could happen to you or someone else in the next competition and need to be sorted.

 

[North Mimms]

Absolutely!

I would guess this "rule"means that over half the average field would be DQ'd

 

[bladeplayer]

Got a reply from the club captain last night saying that the result stands and as far as he was aware there is a rule requiring players to initial their changes on a scorecard :S

Ask him for the rule number or reference as you want to contact the EGU for clarification & you want to have your facts right before you do

 

[sydney greenstreet]

Get your Question published in GM YOUR VIEW section, im sure the lads on here will help then show it to your commitee with the answer from a well published Golf Mag.

 

[bladeplayer]

Get your Question published in GM YOUR VIEW section, im sure the lads on here will help then show it to your commitee with the answer from a well published Golf Mag.

Cracking idea that , only downside is it could take 2 months to get it in with deadlines etc they will already have most of next months mag in place for printing ..

 

[bladeplayer]

Decision 6-6a/6

Q.May a Committee require that alterations made on score cards be initialled?
A.No. Nothing is laid down in the Rules of Golf as to how alterations should be made on a score card.

You have the rule & the explination here , email that to the captain or better still call into the club ^& see the comp sec .. they cant make it up as they go along ya know

 

[Ethan]

Got a reply from the club captain last night saying that the result stands and as far as he was aware there is a rule requiring players to initial their changes on a scorecard :S

Get him to show you the written evidence. It may well be accepted custom and practice to initial, but that doesn't make it obligatory. I am willing to bet the Captain knows as much about the rules as most other Captains - sod all.

If you do not get a satisfactory answer, send a query to the R&A through the Rules website. They usually answer very quickly.

 

[Ethan]

Cracking idea that , only downside is it could take 2 months to get it in with deadlines etc they will already have most of next months mag in place for printing ..

Bad idea. it is not a matter of opinion, it is a matter of fact.

 

[sydney greenstreet]

Cracking idea that , only downside is it could take 2 months to get it in with deadlines etc they will already have most of next months mag in place for printing ..

Even if it is late, if they dont budge with their stance at least he can show them the reply and prove he was correct and take the moral high ground !

 

[duncan mackie]

Got a reply from the club captain last night saying that the result stands and as far as he was aware there is a rule requiring players to initial their changes on a scorecard :S

just to be clear (from the other responses) the result must stand, there's no issue there.

you might start by just replying to him along the lines "I think it would be a little strange for there to be such a rule given that rule 6-6a/6 prohibits a Committee requiring that alterations made on score cards be initialled. I understand that the result has to stand as posted but look forward to hearing from further you regarding the ruling."

 

[duncan mackie]

Get him to show you the written evidence. It may well be accepted custom and practice to initial, but that doesn't make it obligatory. I am willing to bet the Captain knows as much about the rules as most other Captains - sod all.

If you do not get a satisfactory answer, send a query to the R&A through the Rules website. They usually answer very quickly.

Not a lot of point sending a question to the R&A given that the rules are very explicit They will just refer you to 6-6a/6.